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Casper - Consensual or Rape? - Guys Only


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The last seen were casper wakes up in the middle of the night to find some booze and takes a seat on the couch besides jenny. Completely wasted, he tries to wake jenny up for sexual favours but she doesn't wake up. He then begins removing her jeans and then her underwear. He then sticks in it and starts thrusting her. In the act, jenny mutters "no" while casper calms her by saying "it's just me, casper", "it's ok, shh". 3-4min in the act, the screen turns black.

Here's what i think.

Jenny didn't want sex. Even if she knew casper, i don't think she'd agree for consensual sex. If you consider her side of the story, then SHE WAS RAPED!!

part 1: Casper, i think had feelings for jenny or maybe he cared for her well being. He knew telly's game and hence knew what had happened to jenny. This was clear when jenny arrives at steven's house in search for telly and finds casper in the bathtub. She asks him about telly whereabouts and casper tells her to forget about telly. When she insists, he tells her that he was fu@king a girl right now in the next door.

Hence, during the couch scene, he asks jenny to wake up for sex as if it'll be consensual. When he understands that she was high, he then forgets about waking her up and instead starts having sex with her while in her intoxicated state. To him, it was just plain simple sex. The word "Rape" must have never crossed in his mind.

I would like to ask the guys here. Put yourself in caspers position. What did you did according to you(ie, casper)? Do you consider differentiating "rape" and "getting sex"?

If you differentiate between "rape" and "getting sex" then you would be saying that HE DIDN'T RAPE HER.

If you consider both "getting sex" and "rape" the same thing then you would be saying HE RAPED HER.

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She said "no". The end.

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Me too. The title came across as if females couldn't be trusted to offer a worthwhile impression.

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how is this even a question? clearly rape. and we like casper too. was a sad ending

'it never occurred to me that skin could determine identity'

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Yes it was rape, No questions about that.

I am more scared by some of the comments on here:

by AntsuPantsu (Wed Jul 14 2010 15:10:53)


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Maybe it was rape, but being in the age Casper was in in the movie (although my life style is COMPLETELY different) I can say that I probably would have done the same :/ But I wouldn't feel good afterwards.

Are you saying Antsupantsu that you would rape a chick? but its ok as you would not feel good about it?

I am worried for anyone that lives near you!

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"we like casper too. was a sad ending"

He had a certain charisma, but when I feel he only stands out as interesting because he has such boring friends to compare with - Telly especially.

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What the hell is 'surprise sex'? Sounds like something guys made up to justify taking what's not theirs to take.

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the reason for rape is not the definition of rape jackass. They are two separate things.

The act of rape is forced/coerced/non-consensual sex.

The reason(s) for rape may include power/control, but yes, they may also include (among other things) just wanting to nut.

"You're going to need a bigger boat." - Chief Brody

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There's absolutely no debating this.... It was rape.

First of all, she said (mumbled) "no".
Second, she was basically passed out and therefore unable to consent.
Third, she was heavily intoxicated. Too intoxicated to consent.
Fourth, depending on the state/federal laws, she was likely too young to consent (though in Canada, I believe she's old enough to have consented to someone Casper's age, but still the other 3 previous points apply).
Fifth, even if she hadn't mumbled "no", silence is not consent.


"You're going to need a bigger boat." - Chief Brody

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She was unconcious lol that's rape. How could anyone think otherwise?

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Wut? That was rape clear as day. Doesn't get anymore clear cut than that?

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