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Casper - Consensual or Rape? - Guys Only

posted 15 years ago by unknownbroadway
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-=spoilers=-
The last seen were casper wakes up in the middle of the night to find some booze and takes a seat on the couch besides jenny. Completely wasted, he tries to wake jenny up for sexual favours but she doesn't wake up. He then begins removing her jeans and then her underwear. He then sticks in it and starts thrusting her. In the act, jenny mutters "no" while casper calms her by saying "it's just me, casper", "it's ok, shh". 3-4min in the act, the screen turns black.

Here's what i think.

Jenny didn't want sex. Even if she knew casper, i don't think she'd agree for consensual sex. If you consider her side of the story, then SHE WAS RAPED!!

part 1: Casper, i think had feelings for jenny or maybe he cared for her well being. He knew telly's game and hence knew what had happened to jenny. This was clear when jenny arrives at steven's house in search for telly and finds casper in the bathtub. She asks him about telly whereabouts and casper tells her to forget about telly. When she insists, he tells her that he was fu@king a girl right now in the next door.

Hence, during the couch scene, he asks jenny to wake up for sex as if it'll be consensual. When he understands that she was high, he then forgets about waking her up and instead starts having sex with her while in her intoxicated state. To him, it was just plain simple sex. The word "Rape" must have never crossed in his mind.

I would like to ask the guys here. Put yourself in caspers position. What did you did according to you(ie, casper)? Do you consider differentiating "rape" and "getting sex"?

If you differentiate between "rape" and "getting sex" then you would be saying that HE DIDN'T RAPE HER.

If you consider both "getting sex" and "rape" the same thing then you would be saying HE RAPED HER.

[–] edie-minturn-s 9 years ago

getting sex from smone without their concent= rape.

TRIGGER ALERT!!!!

So yes, he raped her.
(and it was intended to be rape in the screenplay).

to make it easier to picture for you: you have this mate, let's call him...ADAM...
Adam really likes you, but you don't notice it.
So one night you guys are at this party with lot's of others and you get completely wasted and high.
You pass out.
I mean what's the worst that can happen?
Friends painting dicks on your face, right?
wrong...
whilst you're lying there comatose you hear your good friend Adam undoing his zipper....
And as he pulls your pants down and pushes himself through your sphincter you hear him say "hey, it's me, Adam...it's me..."
I could go into more details, but I don't want to upset anyone here...
So now tell me, did Adam rape you or "just get sex" ?

[–] funktavious 9 years ago

Definitely rape and you would be surprised at just how often this type of thing happens.

[–] darlingmagic 9 years ago

I have a question, If a Male was to wake up to a Female performing a sex act on him, would that be rape?

[–] thething42011 8 years ago

I have a question, If a Male was to wake up to a Female performing a sex act on him, would that be rape?

Yea.

[–] ThoseLittleRabbits 9 years ago

casper tells jenny to wake up because he's trying to see if he can have sex with her. that's why he pauses when she moves around, while trying to make his move. he's trying to have sex with her while she's asleep. he wasn't actually asking for her consent. even drunk he had a enough sense to tell that if she actually woke up she wouldnt want sex. he raped her. she was also drunk/high out of her mind, but was awake enough to tell what was going on and said no more than once

i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

[–] metcaster1 9 years ago

Be that as it may, I'm just amazed noone seemed to wake up or react during this scene in what was a very crowded room...

[–] ThoseLittleRabbits 9 years ago

the same reason why jenny couldnt fight back. they were all passed out from drugs and alcohol. most of them were kids and prob had a low tolerance

i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners

http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black

[–] weaselnutz 9 years ago

This was in no way shape or form rape. Casper told Jenny Multiple times what he was doing and that it was "me Casper" so its not like he deceived her. Casper was also real gentle with her and he didnt just take it. Also casper didnt get AIDs from Jenny, you only get AIDS from butt sex, hence the gays having such a high occurrence.

Virgins. I love em. No diseases, no loose as a goose pussy, no skank. No nothin. Just pure pleasure!

[–] Deck81 9 years ago

This was in no way shape or form rape. Casper told Jenny Multiple times what he was doing and that it was "me Casper" so its not like he deceived her. Casper was also real gentle with her and he didnt just take it. Also casper didnt get AIDs from Jenny, you only get AIDS from butt sex, hence the gays having such a high occurrence.

You are an idiot and probably a predator. Doesn't matter what Casper felt, if you have sex with someone without their consent its Rape period!!!
"What" ain't no country I've ever heard of. They speak English in What?

[–] metcaster1 8 years ago

Strange the emphasis was on HIV and not unplanned pregnancies too... Wonder if not one, would the other have been an issue ?

[–] fragglecock666 8 years ago

so i take it you've raped plenty of girls in your day if you don't consider this rape

how was it NOT rape?

the girl was UNCONSCIOUS and even said NO. she didn't give consent!!

you think by correctly identifying himself as "Casper" he's allowed to take unprotected sex from her passed out body? insane

oh, and idiot, the only reason he was even saying it was him was because he was trying to keep her quiet and not immediately freak out, he even repeated told her to be quiet, why the *beep* do you think he said that?

i will join the others in being seriously disturbed with people defending Capser/ not considering this rape.

and it's totally gross that the OP asked only guys to respond, basically admitting he knew guys would have a different definition of rape than females

RAPE IS BLACK AND WHITE, there are no gray areas

[–] crashdummy35 9 years ago

Rape.

I used to party with kids like this. We would beat the crap out of, and I mean halfway kill guys pulling stunts like this in the house. If the chick gave it up--it's all good. If you have to pull a stunt or cop feels off one of the girls that ran with us...you were gonna pay for it.

[–] thething42011 8 years ago

I'd say he raped her. They were both drugged and intoxicated, but Casper was clearly more able-bodied while Jenny was almost out of it. He does try to talk to her, but to no clear answer, and does it anyway. When she does say no in the middle of it, he just brushes it off and reminds her that "It's just me, Casper". That's still wrong.

[–] PsychiatricPezDispenser 8 years ago

lol your opinion is spectacularly stupid and I sincerely hope you are never in any kind of sexual situation. Also the way you introduce the question "guys only" shows that you expect guys to agree with you... sorry, good guys don't side with rapists.

She said NO. She straight up told him to stop and he didn't. That is the definition of rape. What in fresh hell is wrong with you???

[–] LadyLovie 8 years ago

1st thing I thought watching this-"oh no. he's raping her."

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