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How did The doctor not realize?


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Ok according to this, because the doctor was dead, no one except the boy (because he could speak to dead people) could communicate with him right?

Does that mean that the doctor didn't communicate even one single word to anyone else all those months? I mean even if his marriage deteriorate, there would be times where it would be unavoidable to talk for some stuff when you're living under the same roof. People don't go MONTHS without speaking even some mundane thing. And what about the other people? Like maybe if he went to buy something from a shop? Didn't he realise that the shopkeeper neither saw nor heard him?Or let's say he tried to take a cab? I mean, people HAVE to do day-today stuff like that all the time. For all those months when he seemed completely invisible to every single person, wouldn't he have started wondering what was up?

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This is explained in the movie. Cole says that the ghosts don't know they're dead and that they only see what they want to see. We see some of this at the end of the movie. Throughout the film Crowe has difficulty opening the door to his office. What we see at the end is that this is because his wife blocked the door with a table.

Clearly what is happening is that Crowe and the other ghosts are not fully cognizant beings who are completely self aware 24/7. I agree in that case it would probably seem odd that not one person has an actual interaction with him for a year. He also would have noticed his wife going to his funeral, people coming over and paying their respects etc etc.

That's clearly not what's happening. Instead Crowe and the other ghosts only seem to be selectively aware of their environment and they seem to blink in and out rather than being aware of their environment the whole time. For example there's a couple of scenes with Crowe in his office but we never actually see him open the door and enter his office. Instead he's just appearing in it. Crowe travels to various areas in Philadelphia but obviously he's not driving a car. So his self awareness is kind of fuzzy. He knows that his wife has been ignoring him lately and he can interact with Cole more or less normally but he's clearly not fully cognizant of what's going on around him

Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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Good points. Just one nit-picky thing... I think the door to his office is not blocked by the table for the entirety of the movie. The wife keeps locking the door and Crowe keeps getting in. Obviously creeped out by the door turning up opened or unlocked, she finally moves the table in front of the door.

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Maybe. That's a possibility. I just remember that that's the revelation at the end when he begins to realize he's dead he finally sees the table in front of the door.

Unless Alpert's covered in bacon grease, I don't think Hugo can track anything.

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I like the idea of the wife moving the table there in response to Malcolm's comings & goings

But I have to agree that it's a "revelation" at the end, which only makes sense if the table were always there

Why else would Shyamalan only show the knob in close-up shots? Why not show the whole door, if not to hide the table being there the whole time?

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Why else would Shyamalan only show the knob in close-up shots? Why not show the whole door, if not to hide the table being there the whole time?

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we must also explain the broken glass on shop and the simple answer is shown by Night by the big RED bottle of Zoloft in wife's bathroom

so just as mum sees cupoards open [we are told she is on Zoloft so sees hallucinations, same as Cole] the wife too is seeing hallucinations [ie Night rules say shrink is a "ghost" so can not do physical stuff].

we are similarly convinced Indian couple and boyfriend saw it too but in fact they are simply reacting to HER [Night does not show a rewind on this but you are expected to do so yourself, having been helped in the other rewind]

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I think it's pretty obvious that the wife DID move the table there because of it opening by itself inexplicably all the time, but most likely she already did it before we see Malcolm as a ghost for the first time.

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Even better, Stratego, thanks

Fits with Malcom's ability to break glass

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Fits with Malcom's ability to break glass


Yes, just like the ghosts who are able to hurt Cole physically, Malcolm can also interact with the real world.

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but most likely she already did it before we see Malcolm as a ghost for the first time

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no, we saw her go down there for a bottle of wine and no table.

while Night has Cole etc explain "the rules" for ghosts etc, Night has his own rules for the REAL issue which is hallucinations from various dose levels of Zoloft, with Cole as kid of course being on a HIGH level and seeing DEAD people and not just broken glass or doors open.

when Night does the rewind to show us the so called "twist" he is actually inviting us to do our OWN rewatch but this time forgetting ghosts and honing in on all his Zoloft clues [and there are heaps].

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God, I can't believe I'm even gonna reply to you

no, we saw her go down there for a bottle of wine and no table.


No, that was in the beginning of the movie when Malcolm was still alive. I said before we SEE him as a ghost for the first time (when he's sitting on the bench and he's been dead for quite some time).

NO Zoloft crap in your response, please.

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In Gravity we have a variation of the hallucination theme [ghost to you] where Willis [or is it Clooney] parks himself next to Bollocks gal [him having died a little earlier on] who is low on oxygen so is starting to freak out.

kinda like a nod to Sixth Sense and no nasty Zoloft

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Yeah, so I was right and you were wrong.

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Cole is not circling around Earth in a TellyTubby suit and runs out of oxygen

he is simply drugged for HIS Hallucinations - watch movie again

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Do you live in a mental institution?

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"ghosts don't know they are dead and they only see what they wanna see" that's the logic of it in this film .

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My theory is that because Crowe is dead throughout the film, the laws of nature etc. are thrown out of the window. I think that in between the scenes involving Crowe and his wife and Crowe and Cole, he is in 'no mans land' where there is no consciousness. That way he isn't aware that he is dead. When it comes to the scenes where he is interacting with someone, he doesn't realise that he wasn't there the day before for example. There's also the possibility that in this 'no mans land's living in a fantasy and with he and his wife not talking in the real world, in 'no mans land' he could be arguing with her. That's why he isn't confused that his wife is ignoring him

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While not ruining the film, it did seem like a not-quite consistent cheat. When he sees his wife in the restaurant he really acts like she specifically agreed to meet him him and at that particular restaurant, I don't see how that could be inferred from some other conversation.

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It was the restaurant in which he proposed to her, it seemed to me they had dinner there every year on their anniversary.

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Yeah. And the kid comes home and Bruce Willis is sitting there with the kid's mom, not talking to her. How did he get in the house? Walk through the wall? Did he not think it was weird he could walk through walls? She obviously didn't let him in - she can't see him.

It's a huge flaw that ruins the whole movie. But people really want to like the movie, so they're willing to overlook it. Also why is Kim Kardashian famous? No one seems to care.

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It is stated in the movie that ghosts only see what they want to, implying they have a warped sense of reality.
Ever had a dream where you just popped into different locations/situations without thinking anything was weird? Can you really apply common logic to that kind of state?

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I know this is an old thread, but not only did the movie mention that ghosts only see what they want to see, there is a scene at the beginning where Dr. Crowe goes to meet his wife for an anniversary dinner and she's already eaten. He says something about how time seemed to slip away from him or having trouble keeping track of time. The disjointed transitions throughout the film give the impression that Dr. Crowe is just popping up, here and there, without realizing it.

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I actually think that what we see in the film (or at least the scenes where Dr. Crowe is present) is almost exactly what the doctor experiences. Cuts and time skips are common in movies- who wants to watch a character go to the bathroom and eat breakfast? We're used to seeing one important scene cut to another important scene, an indeterminate period of time later. Our minds fill in the rest from context. This reminds me of the Dr. Who episode "Forest of the Dead", where a character in a computer simulation cuts from meeting a guy, marrying the guy, and having kids with him in quick succession. At one point she realizes, "Hey, I just met him ten seconds ago," but then accepts that this is her life now. Dr. Crowe in this movie is in the same situation. His consciousness is fragmented, driven by his unfinished business, and what's left of his mind fills in the blanks in between his appearances into reality. I love the idea that the time skips of filmmaking may be happening in real time for the character.

It does seem to me that something about Cole might be attracting ghosts, or perhaps causing potential ghosts in his vicinity to become more sentient where they would otherwise drift without form or consciousness. Am I the only one who wants a sequel to Sixth Sense? What happens to this kid in the future? Will he eventually be driven mad, or will he become a well-adjusted ghost consultant like in Medium and Ghost Whisperer? Maybe I'll write a fanfic.

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It does seem to me that something about Cole might be attracting ghosts, or perhaps causing potential ghosts in his vicinity to become more sentient where they would otherwise drift without form or consciousness.


This film is simply the most brilliant movie ever made, specifically for the reasons you write about--that film continuity and intuitive leaps (of ghosts or non-ghosts) and consciousness, period, are all disjointed. We like to think otherwise about human consciousness, but it's disjointed. We are not the rational creatures we think we are.

I wouldn't want to see a sequel to this because the film is not about Cole; it's about human consciousness and ghosts and non-ghosts seeing only what they want to see.

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It's been a long time since you posted but I wanted to respond anyway. If my parents' and paternal grandmother's marriages are anything to go by, married people don't speak to one another all the often.

With that said, I got the impression that Malcolm would make a plan in his mind and then suddenly be in that space and time (so would probably conclude that he went through the motions to get there). For example, he was shown going to the basement to get some of his (supposedly) old textbooks. We don't see him open the door (or pass through it). We just see him reaching for keys and then descending the stairs. Do you recall in the movie "Ghost" how the mean ghost guy explained "You have to do it with your mind!" when explaining how Swayze's character was supposed to get himself "engaged" with the physical world?

I think it's almost like the idea of us being so used to our own habits that we don't always think through every step along the way. I know that happens to me quite a bit. I guess it's just the brain's way of going on auto-pilot for things we've done a gazillion times already.


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For example, he was shown going to the basement to get some of his (supposedly) old textbooks

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I think it only matters that textbooks WERE a part of the plot [ie the overreaction to MBP, which always follows the former UNDERreaction]. The movie Falling Down finally busted the MBP balloon, so Night is doing a similar "softly softly" here.

We saw doctor played by Night himself do that and our own shrink shakes his head then shows us WHY he shook his head by the passages from his textbook [if you read it??]

That followed on from letting us also read the moronic "reports" our shrink did on Vincent and Cole, one when he was alive and one when he was dead but both the SAME.

Will there be an overreaction to Zoloft? - well 15 years down the line the problem is even worse with americans still "Bowling for Columbine".

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