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Sorry, no such thing as a "black sun"

posted 2 months ago by AmeriGirl26 (12498)
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...or any kind of sun that can bleach out all colors of the magnetic spectrum. It's one thing to use color (or black and white) for artistic reasons (creates good symbolism in visual story-telling), but frankly, there literally is no such thing as a star that can give off visible light that the human eye can detect that will bleach out all colors except black and white.

I've seen environments on earth that almost seem devoid of color, such as empty wastelands in central Asia, deserts, arctic areas where the snow has melted, very large, heavily abused mining pits in central and eastern Russia, and volcanic aftermath. But even in those places, there's always a little bit of color, even if it's nothing more than the blue sky above, or someone wearing a brightly colored piece of clothing, or a single, small, green plant poking out of the ground.

It would have made more sense to have Geidi Prime with that setup than using fake fantasy sci-fi to try and make an already unlikeable enemy strongold even nastier to look at.

[–] e3e34ifj (1359) 2 months ago

I originally thought the Geidi Prime culture was just so bleak, mechanical, and dystopian that they preferred a black-and-white color scheme, and was disappointed and annoyed when I realized it was because of a "black sun". I agree, it's fairly lame, and realistically a black sun would affect more than just that one planet; the entire solar system would be suffering from it, unless the book has an explanation.

[–] UMAD (657) 2 months ago

well the "black sun" is a nickname the occult gives to saturn which they worship.

and the fact that it was in the film do not suprise me because illuminati scumbags such as dennis love to insert their occult knowledge into everything

however with being said. i've read a book talking about the fact that in the distant past there was a black sun and it was saturn.

[–] Ldlamb (589) 2 months ago

“Spice” doesn’t exist either….who knew

[–] DarthAckbar (962) 2 months ago

i'm beginning to think that none of this is true

[–] Goliard (1413) 2 months ago

LMAO. . .I knew this topic was gonna be good for some laughs

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12498) 2 months ago

All right, I'm gonna make it clear to you. They call it "science fiction," because despite the fictional aspect, most of the better-written sci-fi stories usually keep consistent with real-life science that we know about, and incorporate it into the story. That includes how the natural world, the universe, and physics work. One thing that inspired Herbert's writings on sandworm biology, for example, was how whales live in our oceans and eat krill. While a bit odd to think of it happening in oceans of sand on an alien world, who's to say that it couldn't happen somewhere in our universe? Another thing that he incorporated into his Dune books was the idea of humans doing extensive breeding programs to create better humans, aided by advanced tech and a fictional drug. This has been proven to be successful with domesticated animals for centuries, (minus the weird drug and the advanced tech), why wouldn't it work on humans?

I know that's a difficult concept for you, but it really pisses off more intelligent movie viewers when Hollywood does something stupid in a sci-fi film, like showing someone going out into space without a space suit and not blowing up like a balloon from lack of air-pressure; or hurricanes forming on land, or other, outright scientific errors that are so bad to be cartoon-level retarded and laughable. Please excuse me for complaining about a real-life astrophysics concept that you apparently know nothing about.

[–] UMAD (657) 2 months ago

i get it. you hate bald guys.

[–] arendis (5) 17 days ago

I get you. I am a sci-fi painter and I always have the science part in the fiction, it is very important to me.

Here is what I would have done if they wanted that effect- the cities on Geidi Prime would have had special shades around them to block out the colours, as a way of make people depressive and all that psychological stuff.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12498) 16 days ago

All they would have to do is decorate everything in black and white and have everyone wear black. Easy as that.

[–] UMAD (657) 2 months ago

its also a pathetic retcon because in the first movie they are on geidi prime and its not black and white

[–] JoWilli (15646) 2 months ago

what about a black hole sun?

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12498) 2 months ago

They talked about something like that in "Interstellar," where the accretion disk of Gargantua (in addition to rotating) could serve as a substitute "sun" for the planet the humans in the story eventually went to colonize. But it would still give off visible light with the seven colors of the rainbow visible to the unaided human eye.

[–] UMAD (657) 2 months ago

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[–] DancingintheDark (1292) 2 months ago

1. UMAD hates himself.
2. UMAD most likely suffers from borderline personality disorder or a similar type of maladaptive personality disorder.
3. UMAD has never had a meaningful relationship with someone from the opposite sex.
4. Strangely enough, I feel sorry for UMAD.
………………..

[–] HarlemEagle42 (16320) 2 months ago

"....I've seen environments on earth that almost seem devoid of color, such as empty wastelands in central Asia, deserts, arctic areas where the snow has melted, very large, heavily abused mining pits in central and eastern Russia, and volcanic aftermath.."

So how'd the pilgrimage go?

[–] DarthAckbar (962) 17 days ago

LOL!