Jump the shark much?
Are you *beep* kidding me?
This episode is so out of place I can't even fathom if it's a joke or what.
I was totally into 1-6... episode 7 body swap? WTF? Nobody said no to this? They just let it happen?
/facepalm
Show was riding at about a 90-something/100 for me. Until episode 7. Holy *beep* *beep* horrible.
In the words of GRRM, they also commit the act of montage. Jesus christ please don't ruin this show!
The only part I found funny was when the dad was eating all of the food flirting with Sky at lunch while he was David.
No f@cking sh`t lady does it sound like I'm ordering a pizza!
It's an homage to Vice Versa (1988), Like Father Like Son (1987) and Big (1988) which were popular at the time. While it doesn't make sense in the way of the storyline, it does in the context of their time period. Although this type of gimmick probably could've waited a season (if they get renewed).
shareIndeed. On its own it made kind of sense. It could have been a nice halloween special, set in an alternate universe without any impact on the plotlines. But instead they broke their reality. From this episode on, magic can happen.
All in all was gave a hint, how this show is completely unsure, where it wants to go. There is a nostalgia factor, some looking down on the habits of that time, and then there is the typical American Pie humour, the funny sidekick, but also some kind of love story, which never really works, since in this mess it is just too difficult to care at all about the characters.
There is a great show burried inside and it seems the concept has been reworked at least once or twice too often to feel really original.
Loved it. If anybody is looking for anything realistic, this series isn't it. Come on, all the hotties are 26 year-old Maxim Perfect 10s pretending to be attainable 19,20 year old girls working at a private tennis club?
Everything about this series is enjoyable! Right from those movies, 'Fast Times', 'Vacation', 'Flamingo Kid', 'Breaking Away', 'Caddyshack', 'Risky Business', 'Say Anything', even an homage to "The Graduate" when Nash showed off his calf-and-thigh to David, ala "The Graduate." Private club valets taking the Masseratti for a spin? Hey, they even got Amy Heckerling to direct a couple of episodes.
The problem is not, that the episode is not realistic, but that it breaks with the style chosen in the show. Had it been a special, they could have taken the Simpsons route, who kill character left and right on Halloween without it having any effect on the show. But they didn't. Instead they introduced fantasy elements into the show, which from then on make it possible that fairies and dragons could pop up any given moment.
shareCome on, you do understand that the series is all about those '80s summer drive-in comedies, right? Season 2 is placed in 1986, and will be out this fall on Amazon Prime.
That was the seventh episode. "Chosen style"?;-)
Yes, four episodes are enough to form a distinctive style. Or do you think a movie needs two sequels to have enough screentime to have any kind of style?
They even waited for the seventh episode in order not to throw everybody off.
And, no, just because you anchor a show in a certain time, it does not automatically make sense to quote every genre comedy of that time. For that is was too focussed on establishing its style (opposed to e.g. the Zucker Abrahams Zucker comedies, which keep every option open to allow a broad range of jokes).
I am looking forward to that season. Maybe the creators learned a bit and have a clearer idea now, what they actually want to bring across.
Sorry you were confused by S1E7, you should contact the show with your ideas!
shareAlthough tonally it was a diversion, I enjoyed the episode for what it revealed between the parents, and for the homage to 80's swap comedies. There was one line at the end that saved the episode and put it back into the groove of the others. Dad and son say that they can't remember a single thing that happened (though it is evident that there is residual understanding) and because of that we, the audience, are the only ones to witness what happened. I thought it was a simple and smart way of paying homage without disrupting the flow of the episode. I also love that it was directed by Amy Heckerling. Well don, and a gift for 80's moviegoers like me.
shareI agree with what you've written, and I enjoyed the episode, quickly adjusting to the different tone and 'reality,' and deciding to just go along with it. I was slightly jarred in the next episode, when David referred to actions in this episode, when talking to Skye. It seemed to me it might have been better for the whole 'body-swap' story to have stayed simply a weird dream of David's and Sam's. But even that reference didn't disturb me too badly. The show had already built up a lot of good will on my part, so I'm more willing to allow it departures and experiments.
Just make a movie that makes me care, one way or another. I'm open.
Although tonally it was a diversion, I enjoyed the episode for what it revealed between the parents, and for the homage to 80's swap comedies. There was one line at the end that saved the episode and put it back into the groove of the others. Dad and son say that they can't remember a single thing that happened (though it is evident that there is residual understanding) and because of that we, the audience, are the only ones to witness what happened. I thought it was a simple and smart way of paying homage without disrupting the flow of the episode. I also love that it was directed by Amy Heckerling. Well don, and a gift for 80's moviegoers like me.
shareCouldn't agree more!! My WHOLE family loved this show!! Then episode 7, are you BLEEPING kidding me... I would have given the show 90/100 too but I can't recover from such a bad episode, whomevers idea this was should be in big trouble!!! In my 30 years of watching to much TV I have NEVER seen a serious turn this bad this fast, will not be watching the last 3 episodes as I will switch ti Harry Potter, or maybe Lidsey Lohan's trading places as these are much more realistic.
shareLook, I won't lose any sleep or money whether you finish the series or not, but that stand-alone episode carries nothing into to rest of the show whatsoever.
If you had used proper grammar, I wouldn't have had to correct you.
I hated it until the end credits, when they played "Marquee Moon" by Television. Then it suddenly became really good :)
shareI'll agree it kind of came out of nowhere relative to the rest of the season but I rather enjoyed it (the son's portrayal of the dad, both in accent and posture kept me laughing though I could see if someone thought it was tedious/redundant). Maybe I'm a child of the '80s body switch movies, which I think made this fit.
Every show has an episode per season or so that doesn't quite fit or goes out on a limb; this was it for Red Oaks and it was worth the experiment. In fact, this episode may have lured me deeper into this show.
Just saw this episode and found it just as enjoyable as the rest of the series. Not sure why some are so upset about it. It's definitely an homage to the body switching movies of the 80's and 90's. I thought the actor playing the father and son both did a great job inserting the others mannerisms.
sharetrue...it's certainly strange at first sight and keeps being strange until the very end but it's nevertheless a funny, kind of experimental, "drug trip" of an episode.
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"I ignore pathetic trolls"
SforSmile thought the episode needed more bareback gay sex. SforSmile encourages people to be "experimental"
I liked it because it was different and a break from the seriousness. You act like you never switched bodies with someone after drinking strange booze before.
shareWhen the episode started, I thought it would be awful, but it was strangely hilarious. You see how much Sam relishes life when he can, while David is too perpetually worried to get out of his own way.
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Really, almost everyone hated this episode? I thought it was, by far, the best episode. It was pure genius, because they were able to parody the 80s movies that featured body switching, two of which were the same father/son type swap, without interrupting the flow of the show.
They did this by advancing the plot by having "David" make Skye laugh, which made her appreciate him in a different way. And "Sam," in the therapist session, does no harm. We don't get to see if David, as Sam, has to have sex with his mom, which is what the therapists told them to do, since they don't remember what happened, after they woke up as themselves again.
And watching both actors portray their opposites was hilarious! Craig Roberts was so funny, bending over walking and with the rest of his spot-on portrayl of Richard Kind's mannerisms. Kind was equally good with his oh-gosh, gee-whiz version of his son.
I have never laughed so much.
Other plots are also dealt with, such as the Nasser/Mr. Getty stock investment and also, an important plot point happens when Karen catches Skye and "David" eating together.
It works because it could be great as a stand-alone, mini-movie, but also seamlessly fits into the season.
I don't want to insult anyone, like people often do here, but if you thought that this episode was out of place, you really should watch it again, and reconsider what went on.
While it was super odd that they did a body swap, I saw it as an homage to the body swap movies of the decade (Vice Versa, 18 Again, etc.). I thought it was going to be awful, but they both do a really good job of portraying the other, with mannerisms and dialogue.
And it serves later episodes by having both David and his dad get a feel for the issues that the other faces that they had no idea about...like how in couples therapy David finds out about his dad's financial struggles.
I figured that they would pretend nothing happened in the next episode, but I like how they explain it by David saying he took too much allergy medicine.