Diana only has herself to blame. - The Crown (2016) Discussion

[–] Artisan (3464) 4 years ago

I think she was very manipulative. Just as Meaghan Markle now is.

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[–] emori (3360) 2 years ago

Agree. She was better then Meaghan at it since many people bought it and still think she was some saint poor thing. While Meaghan was less talented and people saw through her fakeness. And there wasnt social media back then. I wonder how people would perceive Diana if they could talk about it on Internet and re-watch her clips and interviews.

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[–] Who (5146) 4 years ago

Blame Cinderella and the “happily ever after” myth sold to every young girl of her generation.

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[–] DarkHorse (297) 3 years ago

Beauty and the Beast always comes to mind. The idea that a woman's love can change a man for the better.

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[–] liscarkat (17136) 4 years ago

If Charles was truly as limp and boring as he is portrayed, and living with the obnoxious royal family with all that tedious training and protocol was really as odious as it is shown, I can't imagine any amount of money or prestige that would keep me there past the first day. I'd go out a window and climb a wall to escape if I had to.

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[–] UdoConstantini (117) 3 years ago

Actually the actor playing Charles is extremely attractive and charismatic, in sharp contrast to Charles himself, whom I do consider limp and boring, and was able to paint a quite sympathetic portrayal of him.

If I were Diana, I would have handed the ring back the second he arrived home from his six-week trip during which time he did not contact her once, especially after it was clear that his first priority was immediately to visit Camilla. Of course, having been brought up in a family that was established strictly on the basis of blatant lies and fictions, he had a ready-made lie to tell her. The Queen mother was quite honest about the situation (quite inadvertently, no doubt), when she responded to Margaret's objections by saying, something to the effect of "That's the it works." It funny coming from her, because I always had the impression that her husband, Elizabeth's father, was one of the few Windsor men who was actually faithful to his wife.

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[–] Esterhowse (468) 4 years ago

Diana thought she was getting some fairytale marriage to a prince and Charles was approaching it like the business arrangement that it was.

Unfortunately Diana had no one around her to get her through it all.

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[–] bistritapcv (1692) 2 years ago

That is what they said about Meghan

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[–] UdoConstantini (117) 3 years ago

She was an 18-year-old girl who swallowed the myth, whose entire set of friends and family made her believe all her dreams had come true. I watched the episode "Fairytale", and my gut reaction was "What a dreadful family the Windors are." Simply sickening. They have made a high art out of treating people like fatted calves or well-sired race horses. The only one I could sympathize with is Margaret who instinctively could see that Charles did not love her and could foresee the disaster that this marriage was to become.

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[–] Who (5146) 3 years ago

She was 20 when she got married, still very young. Her family was so m.i.a. Her sisters, her mother, her father did not seem to be around or close to her when she got engaged. They just showed up at the wedding with big hats and deadpan faces. The horsey aristocrat types are a pack of cold fish and Diana seemed like she was on her own for her whole life.

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[–] whoanelly (1570) 3 years ago

An apt description. And Charles was a selfish cold fish who was pressured to marry her while he still loved Camilla. Add to that Diana’s insecurities, paranoia, and desperation, and the marriage was destined to be a disaster.

To really understand Diana, people should watch the documentary Diana in Her Own Words. It contains the audiotapes she secretly made, answering the questions for Andrew Morton’s bio of her. She is very candid. Her instability, immaturity, and desperation are all very palpable in those recordings. She was already a train wreck before she ever walked down the aisle.

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[–] whoanelly (1570) 3 years ago

Margaret was the worst snob of all the royal family, not to mention a horrible track record with men.

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[–] kwestmo (4284) 2 years ago

Do you think Margaret is played as a snob in the first two seasons or afterHCB took over. I think it's the latter, but would like your thoughts.

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[–] whoanelly (1570) 2 years ago

Imo it started a little before HBC took over. And imo that is accurate.

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[–] kwestmo (4284) 2 years ago

thanks

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

I blame Charles more than Diana, he was the one who was old enough to know better. Diana was 19 when things got serious with Charles, nobody's realistic at 19, or able to foresee the long-term consequences of their actions!

Some people think that when a straight men is ready to marry, he'll marry just about anyone around without thinking too clearly about how it'll work out, and some straight men also think that if they marry someone very young and naive, they can "mold" her to be the wife they want... and I think both of those factors may have factored into Charles's decision to pop the question. By all accounts his personality is on the emotionally vulnerable and needy side, and if so, he needed to marry someone warm and caring, and not a starry-eyed and socially ambitious teenager, who was even needier than himself. But he thought that if he did his duty and married a virgin it'd all work out somehow, and nobody ever piped up to say "A hymen is no basis for a happy marriage, you idiots!".

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[–] marktayloruk (2424) 2 years ago

She wasn't that naive.

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[–] Otter (24464) 2 years ago

But she was that unrealistic. Most 19-year-olds are.

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[–] Mustang (5279) 2 years ago

I think as soon as she started noticing the media and people adored her she manipulated it all. I find it hard to believe that she didn't know what Royal life would be like.

Just like Meagan Markle.

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[–] April-151-CT (10210) 2 years ago

She was young and stupid, like most teenagers are. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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