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I love Joss Whedon, but just think what a mess he would have made of this story, at least based on his well-known works. Maybe like Spielberg he has a "Schindler's List" lurking inside him, but I think he, like most sci-fi directors/producers, would have insisted on cliffhangers, gunfights, high speed chases, etc. Even without those checklist items, this movie is suspenseful, especially when Anton goes to their house and tests Jerome's blood. His crawling up the DNA-spiral staircase to reach the front door gets me every time.
I watched "The Host" which Andrew Niccol wrote & directed, and it was only okay, nothing to compare with Gattaca. I think he put his heart and soul into this movie, similar to the saying that everyone has at least one novel inside them next to their heart.
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It is confusing. But I reason from what follows--they wind up in his bed, not hers--that she sat all night outside his apartment, waiting for him. He came back from the swim and was unwilling to wake her up, so sat and waited until she did. (Look, I'd wake her up, but it made for good drama doing it his way.)
Yeah, the movie poster explains why. "There is no gene for the human spirit." Vincent had more than most.
It never did that well on release and tends to get overlooked, sadly, though I've read that it's shown in university biology & genetics course to this day.
It doesn't have enough traditional sci-fi elements for sci-fi fans (space travel, aliens, laser fights, cool gadgets), and it doesn't have much action for a thriller (unless you count Vincent beating up a cop), and people who like character pieces usually don't look for them in sci-fi, so it still probably has trouble finding the right audience.
Yep. Watched it again tonight. Those final scenes get me teary-eyed too--have to make sure I watch it alone, lol. Those little acts of moral rebellion make a world of difference in helping someone achieve his life's dream. This movie speaks to everyone who's ever been held back in life by pettiness, jealousy, stupid rules, and bigotry. (which is probably 99% of us)
*SPOILERS*
Someone pointed out that as he's dying, his silver medal seems to be gold due to the reflection of the flames, so he finally got what he wanted, in a tragic way.
I *love* this movie but totally agree with you. That was ridiculous.
Maybe it was style over reality, stressing that in the future, people are so uptight they wear suits to outer space. But it's still ridiculous.
OK, the family drama worked for some, but I'm with you: I found it the same family drama cliche in other movies and so dull that I FF'd through it. And I like well-done, non-cliche family dramas, but mix the cliche with what's supposed to be a horror movie which has a flimsy premise at best, and I really don't get the hype for this movie, except that people love Emily Blunt.
Hmmm. Convenient to have that ship there--Noah's Ark? (not literally, just the symbolism)
Good point about that ship, the containers, and the condition they were in--they give some indication of the timeline. I suppose the canned food does too--that doesn't last forever. And the new farm was only 6 months old.
I remember that line was put into new context when she revealed that Daughter would be the mother to all the embryos, so she was talking about Daughter needing time to learn motherhood as much as herself. Which explained why only one embryo, and a female one, was awakened at a time. (Which I think makes Mother sexist, lol.)
Good point. You made me think about it more. If she lives alone with a dog, who does she lie to and why would she need to lie? So maybe the lying behavior started while she was still a child, hence her failure of the tests. Just speculating, of course.
Not disputing on this point. But in general, Woman lied a lot, such as her whole fake story about being with someone else who led the dozers away so she could escape, or all the people she lived with in the mines *in the present.* Woman lies as much as Mother if it's convenient, so I wouldn't take all her statements as fact.
There are mixed messages in the show: Mother seems to know all about Woman and what's outside, so why torture her about the mines?
Woman is carrying what I'm guessing is a dead homing beacon in her satchel, which Mother repairs and returns to the satchel--Woman is fingering it right when Mother appears at the cargo container door at the end, and now the light is on. But if Mother was keeping an eye on her, why need the homing beacon? Or was the device something else?
Agreed--Mother managed Woman like an animal at a ranch, giving the illusion of freedom in open space while herding her when needed.
I have trouble seeing the Grand Plan for improving humanity work at all. Mother's own failure rate was 66%, and why should we expect all those embryos to somehow turn into her idea of perfect human beings in a controlled environment given her failure/their failure? Maybe she was fine-tuning the process and got it right with Daughter, but humans are always going to be flawed individuals, ranging from saints to serial killers.
Given that, I see this as more of a cycle of Mother trying one batch of embryos after another, wiping out humanity when she sees the flaws, and starting over.
I think there were other humans--she sketched their faces just as she did with Daughter's.
Good point--I was left wondering why an android would show any interest in a religious shrine.