A thread for anyone who doesn't know what communism is, but whatever they are talking about, it's definitely that.
I'll start:
Anything. Anything is communism
"I don't know if it's true or not, but a lot of people are saying that" - DJT
Political commentary/observation.
What is it called when people are forced to get a medical treatment?
I don't know what that's called - help a fellow out and break it down for me.
What? Can you clarify what you actually mean by "what is it called when you are forced to get a medical treatment"? Just so I.....make sure I'm getting what you mean.
And if the answer is the standard red "I'm sorry you lack the capability to understand"....I'll answer. If I don't know what you mean - please clarify.
Get X treatment or lose your job.
Or get X treatment or you cannot travel by plane.
Or get X treatment or you cannot have surgery.
Or get X treatment or you cannot go to a theatre.
That sort of thing.
All hypothetical of course.
Links? Was it a Fox News announcement?
shareWhat links?
Who do you call it when a government imposes restrictions like those listed?
Links. Give me links to the information.
shareYou can't answer?
Figures.
Do you have trouble reading. Give. Me. Links to the information you just posted. News links, that describe the information. Then give me information about how the information in those links is related to communism. Go.
shareOk, so, ya got nothing.
I wrote this before I didn't know that you didn't know what you were talking about. I'm gonna post it anyway.
What? Can you clarify what you actually mean by "what is it called when you are forced to get medical treatment"? Just so I.....make sure I'm getting what you mean.
And if the answer is the standard red "I'm sorry you lack the capability to understand"....I'll answer. cuz I think I know what you mean. and I'm still thinking 'wtf?'
(I didn't know what you meant, because what you meant had nothing to do with what I posted)
1) Medical treatment is a good thing. What you've just said is like saying "what is it called when hungry people are forced to eat nice food"
2) If you're talking this country, trust me, no one is forced to get medical treatment. If you're fortunate, you'll be offered the treatment for free with a waiting list (because of freakin immigrants and all that shit). If you aren't fortunate, you'll be able to pay for it and get the treatment a lot quicker
3) Things always sound better when you list a 3rd option
4) Medical treament is beneficial. So you've just said "what is it called when you are forced to get something which helps you". which a) you aren't. and b) if you were forced to get something helpful.......why wouldn't you want it?
5) I realise that 4) is mostly the same as 1). but. I said it twice
The closest thing I can think of to what you mean, is being "forced" to use certain local doctors who operate from dirty kitchens and who have one glass eye, rather than being able to choose. That might have been the case in actual communist Russia (who knows). but. It isn't here. And we're totally communist. christ, I've even got a hammer and shears in the garage. It isn't quite a sickle. but. It's communism, so gotta be greatful.
Edit - the "medical treatment" you were talking about is the covid vax. You're either a vaxxer, or if you're a potato, an anti vaxxer.
and that has nothing to do with communism.
So, well done on replying to a thread about television, with "if you can't tell me about broccoli, I'm not going to explain it again". A trumper was making no sense, and that makes sense.
But to be fucking pedantic and address your issues. What is the ucking problem with getting the vaccine? It was free, here. You realise that only 6% of people who had the vaccine, became gay? Let's assume that Covid was genetically engineered by Bill Gates to start the New World order. All countries were in a lockdown and the economy was one big clusterfuck. um. communism. There's a really very very fucking small chance that it was a genuine disease, and governments had to react to a 6-billion zero-day people problem.
Have you got any other subjects related to communism? like, the shelf life of a banana, or how 4G bats are affecting the hippo population?
The covid vaccine isn't a real vaccine, it doesn't immunize you. It doesn't treat the condition, it "boosts your immune response", which is not the same as immunization, and too much can actually damage your immune system. Treatment for covid would be marijuana, monoclonals, hcq, ivermectin, and other crap they never told you about, or in fact misinformed you about. Masks don't work either. In any case, most "antivaxxers" weren't against the experimental vaccine, they were against the mandates for an experimental vaccine.
There were also negative outcomes for many who took the jab, including sudden death. The lockdowns also led to more deaths than the virus. 75% of covid deaths were overweight or obese, and the average age of those who died was higher than the average life expectancy. They also counted the deaths based on who was covid positive, but died from something else entirely, including ventilators ripping their lungs open.
And yes, the vaccines were mandated or you couldn't do anything in public. Even people who weren't at risk were forced to take it, which makes no sense, as the vaccine does nothing against contraction or transmission of the virus. They also lied about the probable origin of the virus, and funding the probable origin. They lied about masks, they lied about ivermectin, they lied about natural immunity and herd immunity, they lied about transmission, they lied about EVERYTHING.
Which is nothing to do with communism. but anyway. I might reply to the rest more in depth later. Because there's a whole load of clusterfuck in there. But the "end result" as I said, was something to do with governments having to desperately deal with a zero-day problem which involved 7 billion people. There was never a "right answer". there wasn't a right answer. and yes. I'm absolutely sure that many governments took is as an opportunity to completely take the piss. But possibly not in the sort of ways you thought they were (or possibly, they were)
This is the official scientific assessment of the vaccine: The benefits it creates (by having the jab) are greater than the problems it causes.
There should be no official scientific assessment, as there are no long-term studies. That just proves it has nothing to do with science, and any opposing views are censored in social media, and tv media smears them or just never mentions them. Some who were considered at the top of their field until covid.
shareok. lets go down this rabbit hole. red pill alert. there's a whole shitload in there, I'm aware of some info. Not an expert, but some info....(some of this might not be formatted right)
There were different types of vaccine. some actually took a sample of the virus, and dosed it into an amount that the body could deal with, to "prepare" it. some contained a copy of the genetic code. some probably used another method. in fact fuck it,
https://www.google.com/search?q=types+of+vaccines
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"In any case, most "antivaxxers" weren't against the experimental vaccine, they were against the mandates for an experimental vaccine."
sure about that?
anticipated question "so you're saying it wasn't an experimental vaccine"
A brand new virus affected 7 billion people (theoretically), and laboratories around the world had to come up with a solution with 0 days notice, and it was developed in 6 months, which is about 5 years quicker than normal procedure. How is the vaccine supposed to be anything other than experimental? The vaccine you'll get for Covid in 10 years time (resist the power etc), won't be the same as the 2020 vaccine. It was best effort.
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I don't know what your government information was. I don't even know what our government information was, because I never watched the broadcasts because I knew they would be full of shite. I knew this (I believed this): It helps (christ, it may help) protect you against the full effects of the virus, if you get it. That was my knowledge about it. Our prime minister probably claimed it could help you fly. Didn't see that announcement. Donald suggested gargling with bleach?
Basic knowledge 101: masks, hand sanitizer. "may help prevent infection". That's it. afaik, the masks had to have 120nm protection, and that protection only lasted for something like 90 minutes per mask. Those are the slogans. Use some sense here. This isn't digital.
You may be able to catch it with a brand new mask, and you might be able to avoid it with a used mask. and you might not get it if you didn't wear a mask. It's all about "it will help to some degree, and the probabilities get higher or lower.
If the government says "doing this will eliminate all chances", use your fucking grey matter. Translate that into "this will probably help". christ, look at the government advice for a nuclear blast in the 1980's. "If a bomb drops, sit underneath a table". governments have never given accurate information out, and if anyone thinks they do, pass the acid, man. that's some state-biz brainwashing. When the Wind Blows is an interesting film. "the wind" being the blast from a nuclear bomb. this is a movie website. you knew that. piss knows that we've had enough bs tabloid statements from politicians in the past. god, you only have to look at most news websites pages to realise that "that didn't happen. and if it did, it didn't happen like that". Let's have the star wars program. satellites with frickin laser beams, man, it'll be great.
I mean. what do you mean "they lied to us". You expect them to tell the truth? governments (all of them) have to convert "we dont know what the fuck we're doing" into "everything is under control" and "how do we send money to rich people" (like Musk, and like Donald). add in Alex Jones, and you've got "a whole load of other crap they never told you about". In about 2005, someone wrote a report for the FDA. they then changed job title, and their next job was "approving the report that they had just spent 2 years writing". this is not new
The virus only mainly affected over-70's. So anyone under the age of 50 at least had very, very little chance of dying. We know this. We also know that someone who died from getting run over, could have been classed as a covid death. We also know that "cause of death is covid" is sometimes impossible to tell.
Sometimes it is, like, if they die from covid. I had the jab (can't remember which one). It made me feel like crap for about 24 hours. I also caught covid, and it made me feel like crap for about 24 hours. If I hadn't had the jab, I might have felt like a lot more crap for 24 hours. I don't know. But other than 24 hours, it didn't give me any problems at all. I'm glad I had the jab. I was greatful that the logistics were in place to be able to deliver it to me. "some shite about if you're glad you had the jab then you're a conformist sheep who is bowing to the globalist agenda and they'll be putting microchips into your brain soon and you'll like it". k. whatever.
They were mandated. Why is this a problem? "If you don't receive free treatment which may help protect you and others, we won't allow you
to do activities which might harm others". More people gained from the vaccine than suffered from it. There you go, that's your liberal bee s. "oh newww, we can't have the vacc because Prudence down the road said she felt iffy from it". now who's being all democrap logically feely? Seriously some people wouldn't believe they had a brain if you told them it had been removed. not you, obviously. (that's a compliment)
"Lockdowns caused more deaths than averted" is a question for the future and there's no reliable data to conclude this. the lockdowns were bad for the economy, so it's not like the government wanted to do them. Covid was a problem that had no right answer. something something something unprecedented.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/did-lockdowns-cause-more-harm-than-good/
If the government had done nothing, all the population of the world would be doing is screaming "why didn't you do something" - that's literally the most important thing. I'm absolutely fucking sure that lots and lots and lots of rich people used it as an opportunity to make money. It wasn't a deep state Freemason russian-chinese conspiracy.
if you think that, there's probably medication. alternatively, stop watching Alex Jones.
"dear mr president prime minister, you didn't do anything, why didn't you do something? lots of people died"
"er, Bob from twitter said he wanted to resist the power"
"thanks mr president prime minister. now, over to you viewers, who do you want to vote for?"
The masks provided some level of protection. what's the issue with that? There were all sorts of stories about people being stopped halfway walking down the street and being given a fine, or being almost arrested for being over 10 miles from their house. Police are power hungry m*therf*ckers. there wasn't a rulebook. it wasn't 2 2=4
I mean fucking hell, the government didn't want to shut down the economy, because......that's bad for the economy. shop 1 and shop 2 obviously didn't want people to not be able to go into their shop, because.......they wouldn't be able to sell anything to them.
probably something else but can't be bothered to type it. this might be up for editing.
Summary;
Masks and hand sanitizer helped prevent the spread of infection
The vaccine helped lower the symptoms if you did catch it
7-billion people zero-day problem, which wasn't an exam and didn't have a "right answer"
and it was grown in a lab by the chinese to prevent other countries successful capitalism. for sure. Bill Gates has shares in AstraZenica
nothing to do with communism
TL;DR - 7 billion people, there was no right answer, and the precautions made bad things less likely to happen.
or, fuck knows. this could all be codshite. it's probably codshite. fight the power. Elon wants to give you a hug.
"In any case, most "antivaxxers" weren't against the experimental vaccine, they were against the mandates for an experimental vaccine."
That doesn't even make sense. If people (5,000,000 other people you are speaking on behalf of) weren't against the vaccine, then they would have no issue getting it. Which would mean......none of the mandates would apply to them. Because they would have had the vaccine - the one they weren't against.
A lot of them did take it. Many realized later that it was unnecessary for them, but never told at-risk people not to take it. In other words, they were against the mandates, not the "vaccine".
The rest of what you wrote went in circles, and to the extent you disagreed at all, it was largely opinion-based. I have no clue what a 120nm mask would be, but there are videos with multiple masks, including n95, showing clouds of particles flying just speaking at normal volume. So the benefit would be negligible, and the lack of a human connection being unable to see the expressions of the person you are talking to, made a lot of people want to eat a shotgun.
Fox News?
"A lot of them did take it. Many realized later that it was unnecessary for them"
how, exactly? That's like saying "I didn't need to take the aspirin, because the headache went away anyway"
"but never told at-risk people not to take it. In other words, they were against the mandates, not the "vaccine"."
"But never told at-risk people not to take it."
The government never told people who were at risk, not to take it?
The public didn't tell people who were at risk, not to take it?
So you're saying people who were at risk, were never told not to take it.
Let me guess. You're quoting Trump. which explains why what you just said.....makes about as much sense as Trump. The mandate was that if you don't receive the vaccine, you couldn't do certain activities. which is nothing to do with the sentence "if you are at risk, not being told don't take it". which isn't a sentence.
I can see why you give yourself headaches.
"The rest of what you wrote went in circles"
roughly translated...."I don't understand logic". something about shotguns.
In fact, scrub the entire lot above. replace with the word "logic".
I don't think you understand what "logic" means. 90% of what you wrote came nowhere near addressing any of my statements, and the other 10% amounted to wishful thinking.
Obviously, I wasn't quoting Trump. But, I will now. "We don't need the cure to be worse than the disease."
Let me know when you understand 10% of it, then we'll work on the other 80%.
What you wrote had nothing to do with communism - but.....that's communism. Communism, the lack of trust in medical vaccines, or of the mandates that apply if you are against getting a vaccine that you don't have an issue with.
Just to repeat that, nothing you wrote had anything to do with washing up, which is the same thing as flower arranging - which is what we have been talking about (communism).
I was literally the first person to say it wasn't communism.
shareI suspect you edited. If you did edit, that's called gaslighting. If you didn't edit. well.....super. I read the phrase "the masks didn't help" and tbh didn't place a lot of weight in the rest of it. The rest of my original post is normal text which you're welcome not to understand. Then we continued to discuss, what, as your current text correctly states, "isn't communism", but was a zero-day 7 billion people problem with no right answer.
And much of what you said was opinion. I'll guess it was from Fox news, which means it doesn't need a response.
"People (who aren't you) weren't against the vaccine, they were against the mandates for a vaccine that they didn't mind getting".
"The covid vaccine isn't a real vaccine". The global term was "vaccine".
have you established after this two day ding dong wether or not the original reply was in fact saying that " forced to get a medical treatment?" = communism?
afaik, I think we've established it wasn't. We have also deciphered that what the post was about, was the vaccine. We then had a discussion which was about something that wasn't communism, which wasn't made obvious whether or not it was communism. If I was Alex Jones I'd say there was the possibility of editing. But I'm not Alex Jones.
shareThey literally changed the definition in Webster's dictionary to keep up with misuse of the word. Vaccines used to immunize you. That's what everyone understood them to be. A vaccine that you need constant boosters is a vaccine that doesn't work.
I already explained why anti-mandate is not anti-vaccine, and why this shouldn't even be called a vaccine in the first place. You just can't read(or write) properly. If I choose not to drink coffee, that doesn't make me anti-coffee.
What is the correct word for a preventative injection that whilst doesent immunise you completely severely reduces the effects of the disease?
shareMaybe immune supplement would be a better term. But you can just take vitamins for that.
shareIf half of the general public didn't like the term vaccine.....they would have hated the term immune supplement.
"supplements, man. they are putting aluminium powder in it. fight the power".
Cant argue with your new term , seems suitable
But you cant take vitamins to replicate the covid "vac"
In fact I'm not convinced that vitamin pills do anything at all.
I think I heard vitamin D was good for covid specifically. Vitamin pills should work, as long as you're eating properly to metabolize them.
share70%.
"A lot of them did take it. Many realized later that it was unnecessary for them"....60%.
"Masks don't work either".....50%.
"as the vaccine does nothing against contraction or transmission of the virus"....it should be clear that it doesn't, no matter what politicians say. I did sort of skip much of the rest of it.
"The vaccine" provided more benefits than problems. The only reason to not get it was "We're being told to get it", and Fox news. zero-day problem, 7 billion people. no-one is saying a perfect solution existed.
......and communism.
Around in circles again, and completely lacking any coherent point. I think you should just take the L and move on.
shareI quoted you.
I also edited one of my above posts. tbh, I read the phrase "they lied about EVERYTHING", and took most of your content to be rambling. Anyone who thinks "the government has all the answers".........yup, you do that. They attempted a solution given the resources available.
Also, it could be that you can't read. or write. There are no mandates in place for coffee, and it isn't medical treatment.
1) I suspect you edited
2) you can't have a discussion with someone who says "they lied about EVERYTHING".
3) governments lie to people. all of them. this isn't news.
4) you didn't understand when I quoted your own comments to you
if any 2 of these are true, that's enough for me.
Where do you live that you don't have any information on Covid mandates?
shareWhat's Covid got to do with a) the above post, and b) communism.
I'm gonna jump a few steps here and assume that the above was "if you haven't had this Covid treatment done, you can't do this activity"
1) What's that got to do with communism
2) something else, but tell me what it's got to do with communism first.
He lives in Fantastyland where everything is possible and nothing the government does is bad.
He sounds like the other pro-government shills - wonder what his main account is.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me after deciphering your reply, why it had nothing to do with the post. I'm not waiting. Unless you don't know that your reply had nothing to do with the post. As a chargeable service, we have removed your brain for cleaning. It is sitting over by the corner under a hosepipe. It will probably be ok. In the meantime, please carry on as normal. This service will be charged to your bank account. That's communism..probably.
shareI don't know what it's called either, but not communism.
shareCommunism or Facism. And when I ask, they have no fucking clue what it is. They're trying to sound smart maybe, or realize this is the big game in town and they don't want to be left ouf of the conversation.
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