Another mass shooting is unfolding as you read this
3 dead, walmart in Oklahoma. When will it end? Why do you think they’re suddenly surging in frequency?
shareHorrendous, especially after two mass home shootings over the weekend.
It’s a copycat effect that never ends.
It will never end so long as the GOP stay married to the NRA who are the muscle for the gun industry. It will also never end so long as mental health resources remain expensive and out of reach for ordinary people. Multiple causes, multiple ways to reduce the risks, but nothing is being done.
It will never end, period. People have bee killing each other for millennia Guns didn't start it and won't finish it. Don't be a partisan propagandist.
shareEmphasis on the lack of affordable mental health resources; responsible gun owners aren't the problem IMO. Unfortunate that the media seems to always distort their reporting to make guns themselves evil and there's no good reason to own one.
shareIt’s irresponsible gun owners, like the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter. How can society distinguish responsible from irresponsible gun owners? Well, there is the drivers licensing system to model on. Not perfect but arguably reduces risks of deadly accidents, provides a minimum testing system, insurance requirements, law enforcement actions, vehicle safety inspections. And that’s what laws can do, reduce risks and frequency of deadly outcomes.
shareThat's what laws do, when properly enforced. There's plenty already on the books. But you can't expect lawbreakers to give a hoot about laws.
shareSo when does everyone perceive mass shootings started to occur more often in the USA?
shareYou don’t have to perceive it, there is actual data out there tracking all the shootings.
One source
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-shootings-2019-more-mass-shootings-than-days-so-far-this-year/
Thank you for the CBS link. They list the gun deaths for the year at over 34k but they don’t tell us how many gun deaths are the result of mass shootings.
They say the FBI classifies any shooting that results in over 4 deaths as a mass shooting.
You and I probably perceive a mass shooting as a deranged gunman attacking innocent bystanders in a public area. By the FBI’s stats used in the article there will be many other incidents such as gang violence that will contribute to the one a day figure.
Did you notice the picture leading the article of the white male with the evil black rifle. This article is trying to sway us in a certain direction.
I’m just saying it’s good to do your own research and don’t leave it up to CBS.
Agreed. Liberal leftist propaganda?
Looks like it.
In Mexico guns are illegal. In 2019, you had 94.8 people murdered EVERY DAY. 25,000 people murdered this year in that country... where guns are illegal.
https://www.elsoldemexico.com.mx/mexico/sociedad/mexico-lleva-25-mil-890-asesinatos-en-lo-que-va-del-2019-2-mil-825-asesinatos-en-septiembre-4342400.html
Weapons are not the key element. The key element is culture.
In Mexico, enforcement is weak and paramilitary drug cartels are rampant. Sorry, Mexico has third world problems and is not a good comparison.
shareAnother good thing to find out is what percent of firearms deaths in the US are due to mass shootings.
shareSorry, Mexico has third world problems and is not a good comparison.
It wasn't a good comparison.
It's becoming more and more a good comparison. Many areas in US are becoming third world societies. share
Agree. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has become very third world
shareAgree. 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue has become very third world
Actually, it's your comment the one that it's typically third world. It's the kind of comment that you could expect in a Latin country, that shows the extreme tribalism and the lack of cohesion typical of those countries.
Traditional US culture, on the contrary, was far more cohesive and collaborative. People could disagree politically, but they still were able to work together in a common project, to have a set of rules as a common ground beyond politics.
The kind of comment you made would be common in a Latin culture. Right now, it has become common in the American culture. The culture changes because people change. share
Forget about the NRA. How 'bout the MILLIONS who die from smoking (legal) and how 'bout the MILLIONS who die directly and indirectly from alcohol (legal)? Are you out stomping your feet about those? Mass shootings, as terrible as the are, are insignificant compered to just those two legal substances that have killed hundreds of million people.
shareYeah. It's the guns' fault. Well of course it is. Everyone knows how a gun will suddenly snap, grow hands and feet, load itself and run down to an obviously unprotected "safespace" (in spite of the repeated fact that only soft targets are chosen for these shootings and not, say, police departments or gun ranges), and open fire on innocents - all by itself.
Sounds stupid, doesn't it? It doesn't sound any less brainless the 116,487th time a blatant non-expert says it, either.
Consider this - how did we convince people to stop smoking, doing cocaine or driving without safety restraints? Hint: it wasn't harsher penalties.
Here's something else to think about - you can do the same damage with a hammer. Or a rock. Or pruning shears. And without something more convenient - people WILL.
I'm not defending the criminal acts of, well, CRIMINALS or some purveyors of firearms. They should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. With extreme prejudice.
I'm telling you, as I've stated again and again, the key to reducing these crimes is education. Educate the buyers EXTENSIVELY. Educate children from a very young age - as I was. Educate the public to recognize problems before they happen and take action.
Or... go ahead. Take a simple and proven dependable means of protection from the law-abiding citizens who pay their taxes, follow the rules, care for their families and communities. Who has firearms then? You know who. And when they know you're vulnerable - they're coming!!
And it's not just the criminals.