"Well duh, it's a new technology."
No, it isn't, not even close. It's a very old technology. I already told you that electric vehicles already had their moment in the sun over 100 years ago. Studebaker made their first mass-produced EVs in 1902, two years before they made their first ICE vehicles. There were even public charging stations for EVs in some places back then.
By 1900, electric cars were so popular that New York City had a fleet of electric taxis, and electric cars accounted for a third of all vehicles on the road.
https://archive.curbed.com/2017/9/22/16346892/electric-car-history-fritchle
Battery technology is what needs to be drastically improved, and batteries have been around since 1800, meaning they are almost as old as the United States is. The rest of the technology is fine, i.e., electric motors are very simple and the technology behind them is very mature with little room or need for improvement, and the rest of the car is no different than an ordinary ICE-powered car, so that technology is fine too.
EV batteries that can be fully charged in a minute or two (i.e., the time it takes to fill an empty tank of gas at a typical gas station) aren't going to exist any time soon, because that would require a fundamentally different, and unknown, battery technology. A half hour or more is ridiculous. Who wants to wait that long to "refuel" their car? And what if there are a couple/few people in line ahead of you?
Also, batteries will never be repairable by a mechanic, and since they are ridiculously expensive, once they die it will cost more than the vehicle is worth to replace them, making EVs effectively disposable (despite not having a disposable price). As an example:
For the Tesla Model 3, the replacement cost around $15,799.27, with the battery alone costing over $13,500 and labor costing $2,299.27
https://www.cbtnews.com/replacing-a-tesla-battery-costs-and-options-explained/
That's about the price of a brand new car (e.g., 2024 Nissan Versa: $16,390 MSRP).
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123Guy (6499)
3 days ago
Don't you think they are still working on updating all this tech? I read about new ideas all the time.
Comparing to the original old electric vehicles is very silly. Things have changed a great amount since then.
Now we can go over 20 mph too. :)
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MaximRecoil (4268)
3 days ago
"Don't you think they are still working on updating all this tech?"
Of course they are, and you still won't see an EV battery pack that can be fully recharged in a minute or two in your lifetime, nor will you see one that doesn't cost many thousands of dollars to replace, nor will you see one that can be repaired by a mechanic or anyone else short of the factory that manufactured it in the first place (and they would have to almost completely remanufacture it to "repair" it).
"Comparing to the original old electric vehicles is very silly."
You don't know what you're talking about. You said...
"Well duh, it's a new technology."
... and not only were you wrong, but you were drastically, outrageously wrong. Pointing out the thing which proves you wrong isn't "silly," obviously. On the other hand, your laughably wrong assertion that it's a new technology (complete with the word "duh," no less) was beyond silly.
"Things have changed a great amount since then."
How is that possible if it's a "new technology" as you claimed? Of course, it isn't a new technology, it's a very old technology, and electric motors have changed very little since then. They are very simple devices.
Again, battery technology is what's lacking with regard to EVs; none of the other technology is lacking, so it's irrelevant here. Batteries have been around since 1800 (or for a couple thousand years if you count the "Baghdad Battery"), and if they are still lacking after two and a quarter centuries, what makes you think they are going to have a big breakthrough in anyone's lifetime?
"Now we can go over 20 mph too. :)"
What of it? The battery and electric motor technology from circa 1900 wasn't the limiting factor with regard to top speed. It's always been easy to get high RPM, power, and torque from electric motors, because they are such a simple design compared to ICEs. You essentially just have a shaft that's being rotated by an electrical field, rather than a shaft that has connecting rods and pistons attached to it which are being propelled by a timed series of explosions. You could put electric motors and batteries made using circa 1900 technology into a modern car chassis and it could be made to go as fast as a typical modern EV. You wouldn't have much range though because lead-acid batteries (which are still used today in ICE vehicles to, e.g., power the small electric motor that starts the engine) don't have as much energy density as modern lithium-ion batteries.
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123Guy (6499)
3 days ago
Everything improves
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MaximRecoil (4268)
3 days ago
"Everything improves"
First, that's demonstrably false, and second, even if it were true, you didn't give a time frame for when the improvement will happen nor any details of what the improvement will consist of, which makes your assertion useless.
In any case, since you didn't address, let alone refute, anything I said, your tacit concession is noted.
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