It seems beauty standards have shifted from 1970s outdoorsy athletic beach blond to 2022s high stylized urban curvaceous.
shareAbsolutely!
"It seems beauty standards have shifted from 1970s outdoorsy athletic beach blond to 2022s high stylized urban curvaceous."
Beauty "standards" might change but a beautiful woman is a beautiful woman.
She was beautiful.
WTF is 'urban curvaceous'?
Do you mean 'Black'?
And are you trying to fat-shame Black and minority women by associating them with terms like 'curvaceous'? FUCK THAT! π
This is all part of an insidious and underhand 'plot' to uphold white, fair women's 'superiority' by elevating their 'virtue', whilst dismissing Black women as 'fat' and thus piggish and undisciplined.
I know how these white women think and work. They hide behind faux-'feminism', but ultimately they favour female *white* supremacy that is designed to make the blondies look virtuous ("Oh, look at us with our perfect vegan macrobiotic diets and extrensive workout routines, but we 'really' admire 'curvy' and 'confident' Black women..."), whilst insidiously putting WOC down.
Obviously, it's more 'subtle' than white male supremacy/racism, but arguably even more offensive in its lack of honesty, but that's the way two-faced white rich bitches like to operate, and BEFORE any misguided do-gooding *simp* accuses me of 'misogyny', just remember who I'm standing up for here: BLACK and MINORITY women. Thus, I *CAN'T* be a 'misogynist'. If anything, I'm a progressive defender of *BLACK* FEMINISM. π
I think that you are looking way too deep into what the original poster was trying to ask.
sharePerhaps, but it's just another example of the way language is implicitly used to subtly undermine POC (albeit most likely without any malicious or possibly even conscious intent).
shareOh, you see race in everything... welcome to my ignore list. Bye.
shareShame. Your initial response was reasonable. I'd have hoped you'd have appreciated my own reasonable reply.
shareYeah, identity politics is so played out. Its just boring and moronic now. Hey here is a news flash weβre are all here in the same place struggling, its only the elite dividing us for their own benefit. Just wake up.
shareIt's just more of his tiresome, sham-liberalism schtick.
shareOh geez, here we go π
shareDude, you need to calm down. π
shareYou are trolling way to hard on this one. Even if he did mean black, he would just be saying that black women are the beauty standard.
Curvy does not mean fat, it means you have curves. Size is irrelevant. You can be thin with breasts and a booty, which is still curvy, and you can be fat and shaped and shaped like a beach ball. That is not curvy.
Heβs obviously referencing the mainstream rise of big butts, which was influenced by the black community. If we go back to Farrah Fawcetts era women were a lot more insecure about the size of their ass.
I didn't find her particularly attractive in 1972. Her angular face and over-prominent teeth weren't appealing, and the blown-out hair of the '70s and '80s didn't help.
shareOf course she would. She was stunning.
shareyes bc her hair/face/smile was amazing
shareShe was a beautiful woman.
shareYes!
"...her hair/face/smile was amazing."
Some sad sack ignored poster keeps bumping this thread.
During the first 2 years of Charlie's Angels America was in love with her.
Farrah Fawcett was beautiful.
"Some sad sack ignored poster keeps bumping this thread."
Then, why are you commenting?
Let me guess, I'm the ignored poster, and you can't see my comment? ππ€¦ββοΈ
My sincere apologies if I'm wrong.
Tanned blondes never go out of style!
If she came along today her face and thick blonde hair would still be considered beautiful, although her very slight figure isn't quite what's in style right now. If she came along today, she might be advised to get boob and butt implants.
From the 1930s/40s onwards, you'd be right, but up until that era, tanned skin on a white person was seen as a lower-class sign (i.e. someone who worked outside). It's only within the last century that tanned skin has been regarded as a sign of wealth and status, and thus 'beautiful' (and let's all be honest for one moment; beauty is intrinsically connected to wealth, which is not to say that one can't be naturally beautiful if one is born poor, but that the look that everyone aspires to, is often associated with health, comfort and glamour, which tends to cost money for most people). So, yes, from when Coco Chanel returned from the French Riveria with a tan, tanned skin has been seen as a status symbol, but, like I say, that's only been within the last century or so.
I guess Farrah wasn't as large as some other beauty icons, although her upper legs were quite strong/curvy (possibly because she was a keen athlete), so I wouldn't say she was skinny/anorexic, but, yes, I suppose her boobs would be considered 'smallish' by today's standards.
Well, to be really nitpicky, suntans first became fashionable in the 1920s, and 100 years ago the old folks considered tans to be as coarse and scandalous as everything else the Flappers liked.
But Fawcett didn't need to be tanned to be beautiful, she was tanned because tans were absolutely obligatory in the 1970s, everything about her look fit the fashions of the time - her hair, her tan, her teeth, her coke-slim* figure. I think her face was stunning, although she probably wouldn't have been thought of as stunning before, say, the 1940s or even the 1960s. There was an angularity in her face that made her a unique beauty, and soft faces were THE style for girls during the early 20th century.
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* I'm not calling her a cokehead, I have no idea if she was or not. But she was as slim as a stereotypical cokehead.
Exactly, with respect to suntans, but that's the point; post-1920s they started to become 'in' and a sign of health and thus wealth, and thus a status symbol/a beauty aspiration (i.e. "I've got a tan, because I'm rich enough to take multiple holidays/spend time sunbathing instead of working in an office/factory etc.")
I suppose Farrah was slim, but I never thought she looked *unhealthy* slim (except in the last stages of the TV movie "Poor Little Rich Girl", and that's because she was playing real-life tragic heiress Barbara Hutton who became an anorexic towards the end of her life).
I know what you mean about her angularity, especially in the nose and the jawline, but I personally preferred her to Marilyn Monroe, even though MM was arguably more of a *classical* beauty, and that's because as beautiful as MM was, one could always detect some sadness in her (and it's hard to ignore all the stuff about her torrid childhood and later years), whereas Farrah always radiated a happy, joyful, mentally *as well as* physically healthy, effervescence. I don't know if she was treated well by all the men in her life (and frankly, I don't want to think of any of the possible horror stories), BUT it's very clear that she has a great relationship with her parents, both of whom lived to an old age (and in Farrah's father's case, outlived Farrah by a year or so), and had a happy, healthy, typically 'All-American' childhood, and there's something very appealing, sweet and even sexy about that.
It's nice to imagine that a beautiful woman has a happy life, or at the very least had a happy *start* in life. No-one with a conscience wants to believe that beauty always has to come with a hard price, so, as I say, FF was always more appealing to me than MM. Although FF had a few spaced-out moments towards the end of her life (I believe she acted out on an episode of the David Letterman show), for the most part she radiated mental and emotional healthiness and happiness.
Beauty is a totally subjective thing, and decisions as to who is beautiful and who isn't depends on the eye of the beholder and the fashions of the time. Beauty ideals change with time and location, big butts for instance have gone in and out and in and out of style, same with every other feature that gets idealized. 100 years ago the ideal woman was short, pasty, and flat-chested after all!
But this is just me, but I've always found Marilyn Monroe to be slightly overrated as a beauty. I mean, somewhere under all that bleach, makeup, and padding was a very pretty young woman, but IMHO while she was unbeatable in terms of star quality, she wasn't the most physically beautiful thing ever. And I think Fawcett is perhaps a bit underrated as a beauty, her face really was something else, such great bone structure with a comparatively fresh and natural surface. Neither had a happy adult life, but I suppose Fawcett might have had one... if she hadn't spent most of it with that repulsive dickbag O'Neal.
Yes, unfortunately, both women ended up with a few assholes for husbands/lovers, but at least Farrah seemed to have had a supportive and loving family (i.e. mother and father, and sister), despite her asshole boyfriends/husbands. And sadly, her son, Redmond, seems to have been a chip off of Ryan's block...
I'm inclined to agree with you about MM and FF, although as naturally beautiful as Farrah was, I really do think a lot of her appeal went beyond her, admittedly stunning, hair and facial features, and came down as much as anything to her energy/effervescence, and, of course, her gorgeous smile. Yes, she was BORN beautiful (apparently boys used to ask "Is she an angel?" when Farrah was a child, because of her natural prettiness), but she really enhanced it through her spirit.
And as eyecatching as Monroe was, you have a point about all the enhancements. She was naturally pretty, but unfortunately, a lot of what made her stand out was fake (whereas Farrah was, I believe, entirely *natural*, which goes back to your earlier post about how she'd probably be pressured by some people to have boob/butt surgery these days). (Classily applied) makeup is perfectly fine in enhancing what one's already got, but it's the bleach/excessive padding/surgery that's less attractive.
There was a story Ryan O'Neal told about himself: He was at a family funeral, perhaps Farrah's, and there he saw "an attractive blonde woman". He hit on her, and she responded with "Dad, it's me, Tatum!". Yup, that dirtbag had not only failed to recognize his own daughter, he'd hit on her! AND he was willing to admit to it! Ick, ick, ick, ICK!!
And with that, I bid you good night.