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does the punishment fit the crime?


because it's ones word over another's. especially now that they transferred him to maximum security. his fame and money makes him a target in there with inmates that have nothing to lose. seems a bit sus.

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I'm assuming, and I am only going by what was reported on the trail and not transcripts, but because the women did actually report the rapes to the church, that it is more than just one word over another. One woman did repot to the police back in 2003. Also, out of the 5 women who did come forward, he was only convicted on 2 counts, and only 3 went to trial as 2 cases lacked evidence or past statute of limitations, there had to be something there.

Also, most rape cases are just one's word over another.

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No. I was telling the story to a friend and they were shocked. Stone cold murderers and rapists stalking victims in alleys get less time than this. And often repeat offenders at that. Danny definitely pissed off the wrong powerful somebody.

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Whatever. Guy is guilty.

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💯💯

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It's always nice to follow detailed discussions of 2 competent judges. 👁️​☻👁️​

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OP "Memoryfoam" is still shown "deleted".

Is that the punishment for parrot-posts? ​🤔​ 🦜

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does the punishment fit the crime?


Yes.

because it's ones word over another's.


That's a separate argument. One has nothing to do with the other.

We don't halve the sentence because the evidence is weak. This is binary - he's either judged guilty (full sentence) or not (acquittal).



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Sounds like majority voting:
"The winner takes it all." 👍​

Thanks for your explanation. 😽​

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Yeah, well, that's what jury trials are all about - the good and the bad - but that's all we've got for now.

It mostly works, but there will always be innocent people found guilty and guilty people acquitted.

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Truer words have never been spoken. *sigh* 😇​

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The issues of the evidentiary standard to convict and the sentencing standards should be considered separately. They don’t interact.

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That's an even better explanation, yessas! 🙃​

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I think in sentencing, they can consider extenuating circumstances such as if the convicted was an abused child (for instance), but I don't see any way they can reduce sentencing for crappy evidence - if the evidence is weak enough to warrant a reduced sentence, then an acquittal should have been the result.

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Aggravating and extenuating circumstances - like premeditation or cognitive impairment - may be considered in assessing both culpability and sentencing.

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Now that sounds competent.
So many Latin words. 👏​

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I followed Masterson's case pretty close. I looked for signs that he was innocent but honestly, it wasn't there..ever. He used a gun too. Threatening tactics, just brutal. The judge ordered Masterson's guns to be turned in..and they were. He really seems like a very bad guy and I believe he belongs in prison on a long sentence.

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You got what you wanted!

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Yah!...apparently the OP Memoryfoam gets the name back with enough replies.
How many more do we need?
Do you think 50 replies will be enough? 😉​

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Guns? Now we're talking. I thought we just had some remorseful drunken sexcapades.

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Just wait a little.
In a few Danny Masterson killed his whole family. ☺

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I have slightly mixed opinions about this situation. Masterson always gave me the creeps, even way back in his 70s Show heyday, when i was a kid. I literally couldn't watch the show because of him. Masterson being charged & convicted of drugging & raping women was the ultimate "had a gut feeling along" confirmation bias. That being said, I'm uneasy about the precedent of convicting people of sex crimes without physical evidence, decades after the fact, even if the circumstantial evidence has merit. I think they got it right this time but i think the door is open for a lot of potential BS.

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