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She was no longer an American anymore. She became Swiss.


She gave up her US citizenship. Pretty ballsy move of her.

--Michael D. Clarke

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Swiss tax haven?

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https://www.datalounge.com/thread/32982559-why-did-tina-turner-live-in-switzerland-

She was still having to pay tax in the US even though she didn’t live there. Switzerland doesn’t allow dual citizenship. Perhaps she got tax benefits if she were a citizen. She got married decades later to her boyfriend. She probably wanted legal protection for both of them and perhaps save on taxes by being married. She lived in the UK for a time with her future husband. He then settled in Switzerland with her. Tina was accepted in Europe, not as much in the US, especially with the black community. She went where people supported her.

Tina was going to be 84, the same age her mother died. She talked about that just recently. Her sister died at 74. She was ready to die a decade ago. She wasn’t fearful in the slightest.

by Anonymous reply 12 May 25, 2023 8:06 PM

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Either this is worded poorly or the original poster is a race baiter. How was she not supported and accepted in the US?! She was a MEGA STAR who sold millions of albums to white fans, and black fans alike. She held huge concerts that were attended by both paying whites and paying blacks. By the 1970s she had become an American cultural icon and that status carried over for the rest of her life! Perhaps later in life she wasn't as huge in the US as she once was, but who is? Not many people can maintain THAT level of celebrity for their entire life. People have their time and then their time ends. That's the normal progression of being a celebrity.

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Why did Tina Turner live in Switzerland?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tina-turner-dead-switzerland-home-kusnacht-why-did-the-star-leave-the-u-s-husband-erwin-bach/

Tina Turner died at age 83 at her home in Küsnacht near Zurich, Switzerland, her representative confirmed on Wednesday. The music legend had lived in Europe for decades and her neighbors in Switzerland paid tribute to the star this week, laying flowers outside of her estate.

"When she was passing by, she was smiling, she could feel that we were looking at her, but was always very discreet," a neighbor named Christine told Reuters.

"She's been a part of my life for over 35 years now and she was a good neighbor, she showed up in town, she was very well liked," a neighbor named Kosta said.

Why did Turner move to Switzerland?

During a 1997 interview with Larry King, Turner said she left America because her "success" and boyfriend, Erwin Bach, were in another country. Turner was born in Nutbush, Tennessee.

She and Bach, a German music executive, first moved to Switzerland in 1995, according to Reuters. She became a Swiss citizen, giving up her American citizenship, shortly after marrying him 2013.

In an interview with Mike Wallace for "60 Minutes" that same year, Turner explained her popularity in Europe. At the time, she was expected to gross $100 million during a three-month European tour and Wallace said he had no clue Turner was such a huge star there.

"No one in America knows that," Turner replied.


When Wallace asked how "American" she is, Turner said: "Still very much American. I still don't speak the foreign tongues over here yet. I still pay American taxes. I have property in America. All of my businesses run from America still," she said. "But in my heart? I don't think I will go back home."

Turner and Bach bought a new 24,000-square-foot home on Lake Zurich for an estimated $77 million in 2021, according to Swiss newspaper Handelszeitung.

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"Big in Europe" is a punch line and a refuge for falling stars. Europe is lagging far behind America.

In an interview with Mike Wallace for "60 Minutes" that same year, Turner explained her popularity in Europe. At the time, she was expected to gross $100 million during a three-month European tour and Wallace said he had no clue Turner was such a huge star there.

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I find it interesting looking at chart histories and many so-so songs by big artists, which fail to chart in the US, make their way into many European top 10s, or even number 1.

Sometimes however I think the opposite, 'wow, how did this song NOT chart in America?'

Diana Ross's 'chain reaction', a UK number one comes to mind. It was number 66 in the states. There are other examples.

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Surely the standard of living is much higher here in the US VS where she lived. She might have lived there for more affordable healthcare. She had cancer.

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Good point

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I think that the standard of living is much higher in Switzerland than the US.

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Switzerland is one if the richest countries in the whole world, makes USA seem like a third world jungle in comparison. Just cause our medical system is allowed to rape and extort our citizens doesn't mean it is any better than other countries, it is much worse in most cases except for the Saudi Princes and shit...

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Clearly no country can compare to the US! Our freedom alone is world class. There is no freedom in Swissland. We are very rich.

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yes our gun rights are the best and make us the best but we still have many problems. the poison in our food, the evil big pharma industry, the anti-Murican👃media, being some of our biggest problems. USA is still the best place to acquire wealth if you come from nothing. It is the only place were a zero can rise up to become a hero. I am a proud American 🇺🇸 and glad I was born in this great country but still see there is much room for improvement.

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Cant argue with that brother, 100%
LOL at "anti-Murican👃media!

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Rubbish. There are 167 other free democracies on the planet where you can rise from nothing to something.

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USA is the easiest. In UK right now and it is depressing place. The rampant alcoholism is a result of the lack of freedom. the government is importing half the third world to replace you guys and u cant even own a knife or a pepper spray to defend yourself?!? USA is a grim, dangerous place as well but at least we have the constitution and the libturds have yet to strip us of our God given right to defend ourselves and our families with guns. I cant wait to get out of here fast enough. Girls are just as ugly and fat as USA, the rest of Europe is also pretty shit when it comes to freedom but at least there are hot girls to make up for this...

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I'm not from the UK.

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sure ur not...

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Why would you think I'm from the UK?
I am not from the UK. Not born there. Never lived there. Only been there twice for 5 weeks in total.
Deal with it.

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Rubbish I tell you, Rubbish!!

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Wrong.

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Safer in Europe. Fewer gun nuts.

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gun nuts keep Murica safe, Europe went too shit after importing half the third world. they will be forced to re-legalize guns soon, just watch...

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Paranoid. Racist. Gun nut.

Three reasons why Tina Turner left the U.S..

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just cause I am paranoid doesn't mean there aint people out to get me... 👃

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Maybe she wanted to read a book, but it was banned by a Republican.

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That's an idiotic, uninformed statement. Republicans don't ban books. In the U.S. you can buy any book you want, and even give it to your kid to read if you think that's the right thing to do. In sane states, legislators, mainly Republicans, have sought to restrict a handful of books from being offered to younger children at public school libraries because they discuss or graphically depict sex acts, or advocate transgender ideology. That's not book banning, that's being intelligent and responsible.

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Florida Mom who Banned Poem in School Didn't Read It

"Florida mom whose complaints about reading material prompted Amanda Gorman's acclaimed poem "The Hill We Climb" and other books to be restricted at a local elementary school admits she only read parts of the material she objected to.

“I’m not an expert,” she said. “I’m not a reader. I’m not a book person. I’m a mom involved in my children’s education.”

"For those claiming my book wasn’t banned, just 'aged-up,' 'The Hill We Climb' is an inaugural poem for the world," Gorman posted on Twitter. "Relocating it to older age group library shelves by its nature bars younger and equally deserving generations from accessing said moment in history."

The advocacy group Miami Against Fascism posted photos of Salinas at rallies with member of Proud Boys and Moms for Liberty, a conservative group that has protested school curriculums that mention LGBTQ rights, critical race theory and other issues. Salinas told JTA that she was not a member of either group, saying she had merely attended rallies where their members were present.

Salinas apologizes for antisemitic post

Salinas expressed regrets for sharing a Facebook post in March about “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” a notoriously antisemitic hoax purporting to describe a Jewish plan for global domination.

 “I want to apologize to the Jewish community,” Salinas told JTA. “I’m not what the post says. I love the Jewish community.”"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-mom-challenged-amanda-gorman-192830037.html

Tina Turner probably had a distaste for Fascism in which you support.

Now we know why she moved to Switzerland.

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kids shouldn't be forced to read any poems, poems are lame...

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You're completely clueless about the positive message about America and its future in "The Hill We Climb" poem which was banned!

Poetry isn't about rhyming words. It's about ideas. Songs are poetry set to music. You must hate music, too. It sounds like you don't want future songwriters to exist.

I suggest you read "The Hill We Climb" poem which the young woman wrote in despair after witnessing the Jan. 6 mob's attempt to destroy democracy.

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so not only is it a gay annoying poem, it is a libturded poem...

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You're doing a great job at showing everyone the reason why Tina Turner moved to Switzerland.

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all libturds should move, yeeeeeehhaaaaawwwwwww!!🤠

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You would starve without their taxes supporting you.

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keep telling urself that, libturd...

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"Blue high-tax states fund red low-tax states"
https://apnews.com/article/north-america-business-local-taxes-ap-top-news-politics-2f83c72de1bd440d92cdbc0d3b6bc08c

You're a parasite!

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get the fuck out of here with ur libturd fake news... i am not afromurican, nobody gave me any handouts....

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Blue states gave you plenty of handouts. You're also living on stolen land and enjoying a comfortable lifestyle created by the pass labors of slaves who were not paid wages for 300 years!

Most of U.S. history is one large affirmative action program for white men only.

"When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America" by Ira Katznelson

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shutup libturd, that labor wasn't free. we are paying for it everyday with the high levels of afromurican crime and violence. worst investment this country made was importing those slaves for short term profits. My parents immigrated to USA in the 1980s so I have nothing to with that shit anyways. I was born poor and became wealthy in my 20s. nobody handed out shit to me I had to go out there and get everything myself...

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Crime is highest in red states with your backward Republican policies.

"My parents immigrated to USA in the 1980s"

You're an illegal. I'm not surprised.

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I was born on USA soil a free man with God given gun rights and will die on USA soil a free man with my rights intact 🇺🇸 🫡

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Any sane person would leave that shithole known as the US of A

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Where would you go ?

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To a peaceful country like New Zealand or Finland

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BYE.

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Or you can stay to make it better.

You can run away but there are only so many Switzerlands in the world to run to.

New Zealand and Australia looked pretty nice pre-Covid but their policies showed how dictatorship is only a light switch away.

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It's a lost fight, man. It's better to pack your bags and look for happiness and peace of mind elsewhere.

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I have never been outa America but I can’t imagine that other place is more high end, elite, superior compared to the US! Americans is so clean you can eat of the streets! It’s safe and extremely rich. Imagine living a country like Europe, Norwayland, London or Afghanistan. Americans are looked at as world learners, everywhere we go we are worshippers and loved. We win every war. We support Israel. The Jew!

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THESE FUCKERS DON'T RESPECT THEIR COUNTRY ENOUGH...THEY SHOULD GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON IF THEY WANT TO...MORE ROOM FOR THE REST OF US AMERICANS...AWESOME AND BADASS TO THE LAST.

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It’s blunt but I like it !

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Quit joking around. I'm serious, man.

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"I have never been outa America"

Says it all.

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Well if you give up on the ideal, the corporate state will find you wherever you run.

Who at least pretends to value freedom in this world? Russia, India, China?

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America, it’s pure freedom here!

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It's the best we got, once it's all gone there, no one else is making it - not even China.

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Her husband probably didn't want to live in the U.S..

"Why Switzerland Is the Best Country in the World | Best Countries | U.S. News
A Strong Economy and Quality of Life Make Switzerland No. 1
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2022-09-27/a-strong-economy-and-quality-of-life-make-switzerland-best-country-in-the-world

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America sets the tone for the world as we are world leaders and peace keepers. We have everything here from big cities, beaches, islands, mountains, skiing, the largest Jewish population outside of Israel, we have couture, amazing sites and tons of history. We are also the richest country in the world. If you are homeless in America you are still better off owing a hose in Europe as the region is dirt poor and underdeveloped.

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Are YOU rich? Why are there homeless if Americans are so rich?

It's better for the 99% to have a high standard of living like in Switzerland rather than only the 1% in America.

Switzerland, however, has the second smallest global homeless population of 2,200 people in the entire country!!!!!!

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It's all about the tax laws in the US. If you are a US Citizen, you pay taxes on your income even if you didn't earn any of it in the US. So by giving up her US Citizenship, she saved a ton in taxes. Those tax laws really need to be changed.

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You know I don't know for sure why she ended up in Switzerland. But I'd venture to say Ken12602 is probably right. One thing I found in life, once you sift thru everyone's BS - once you get to the absolute bottom line - it's almost always about money.

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This threads just full of "Go America! fuck yeah!"

Its cute y'all have this inbuilt ( or indoctrined? ) patriotism , loyalty , best country eva! ,etc built in ,
its nice . its good.

but in reality USA is no more a utopia than Switzerland , Norway or the other top-of-table happy wealthy Nations

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