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How so? Keep in mind being successful and keeping the money you earned doesn’t equate to greed
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And who are you to determine how much someone needs?
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How do you determine how much someone needs and why is it your business?
I personally know little to nothing about the guy, he could be a complete POS for all I know, you aren’t really putting forth a convincing argument however
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You didn't answer my question: How do you determine how much someone needs and why is it your business? You can say you'll "make it your business" all you want but that doesn't make it so.
I don't know you personally or anything but you sound like a spoiled brat. You seem to think you are entitled to someone's else money that they earned off their own creative abilities and talents.
Not everyone who is rich did it by hard work. There are some who did get rich by hard work but not everyone.
shareDid they steal the money? Did they break the law to earn it? Did they cheat on their taxes?
If none of the above apply then it's none of your business.
Never said it was my business. Just was proving that not everyone who is rich did it by hard work.
shareDefine hard work.
shareAnd in the case of Mark Zuckerberg he created a service that other people want. It’s called supply and demand, it’s basic economics , maybe we should sign you up for some kind of remedial civics course
shareWhere did I say Zuckerberg didn't work hard? Where did i discredit his success? I said not everyone who is rich worked hard to get rich. There are people who have never worked a job in their life that inherit millions of dollars. I'm not asking for a cent I'm just proving not everyone who is rich did it by hard work. Some people inherit it.
shareAnd the people who left them that money wanted them to have it. It’s their money they can give it to whoever they damn well want and again it’s none of your business.
shareNever said it was my business. I simply said that not everyone who is rich worked hard to get it. Stay on topic. You can't comprehend what's being said. It's because you are in defense mode. I was making a point, people can do with their money what they please. I never suggested otherwise.
shareActually the topic is that he's a Greedy, immoral person. He could be a complete POS for all I know, I know little to nothing about him. Having said that no one on this thread has presented a convincing argument. Reading comprehension really isn't your thing is it?
shareYou often make an assumption that simply because someone is rich, they did it by honest hard work. It's a generalization that is ignorant. Some people did work hard some did not it is as simple as that. Tell me this is stealing an idea ethical?
sharePlease demonstrate to me that he's a greedy person? So far you have not made one nanometer of progress in doing so. But I'm guessing you don't really believe that, you just came here so you could say the opposite of whatever I did.
shareNot my job I proved my point.
shareWhat point? I never argued that some people inherited their money. It's still theirs and it's none of your business.
shareWhere did I say it wasn't their money? You keep saying it's still there money yep I never denied that. So why keep saying it?
shareAnd I never denied that some people are rich because they inherited it. What's your point? What you're saying isn't contributing to the topic of this thread. Right now you're just being a loser troll.
shareYou never answered my question. Is stealing an idea ethical?
shareWho are you claiming he stole the idea from? Was he arrested? Has he been reported to the authorities?
shareAnswer the question. We aren't going further unless you do. You are basically claiming that unless it is totally proven it's fine. I asked a simple question yes or no is it ethical to steal an idea?
shareUh yeah no sh!t, if we are going to call someone greedy it should be proven. I'd like you to answer my questions before we go any further.
shareNot until you you answer the question. I'm not letting you dance around it. Is it ethical to steal an idea? It's a simple question. The fact that you won't answer makes me think you think it is ethical.
shareJust give me your evidence for him being greedy and then we'll go from there. And I didn't answer because I know you have a "gotcha moment" planned and I'm not going to take your bait.
shareNope you lost the debate. You won't answer a simple question. It had nothing to do with bait. It shows you have no confidence in your ability to debate. I would answer that question in a heart beat.
shareOk fine I’ll answer it : I don’t know, First you’d have to define “stealing someone’s idea” then I’d need to know the specific circumstances. Now what is your evidence that he’s greedy?
shareBefore I answer I want you to answer these questions because I have a feeling you are preparing a "gotcha series of questions"
shareYou're full of shit and you have more than you need. You don't NEED internet access. You eat and drink more per day, than you need. You live in a larger dwelling than you need. I'm sure that's just the tip of the iceberg.
shareAre you implying that a single human being "needs" / requires 1 billion+ dollars, nonetheless $70 billion? Why don't you explain that to me. Other than that need relating to greed, and wanting more material objects/power.
shareWho are you to determine how much someone "needs"??? Are you implying that there should be a limit on how much someone should be able to earn?
I'm not implying anything other than so far on this thread I see no evidence that he's greedy. Keeping the money that is rightfully yours is not greed. If he stole the money, obtained it illegally, cheated on his taxes, earned it off child labor, etc. then that would be a different story and if you have evidence of that I'd love to take a look at it. But he has created a product that other people want, that is why he has so much money and I don't think it's any of your business.
"Who are you to determine how much someone "needs"???"
Because there's a limited supply of it? And a very tiny minority owns the vast majority of it? It's not unlimited?
And as I said in another post, other people's money IS our business when it's at that level. Billionaires can directly affect our lives (affecting policy/lobbying/political contributions/jobs), and a majority of the time it's not in a positive manner. A majority of the time it's to put more money in their pockets and less in ours - there is a limited supply of this stuff, and they have a vast majority of it.
So again, explain to me how a single human being "needs" / requires 1 billion+ dollars, nonetheless $70 billion?
Because it’s rightfully his because he created a service that everyone wants. You aren’t entitled to it and it’s none of your business. Maybe if you can create the next big sensation then you can be a billionaire. It’d be great if everyone could be a billionaire and live like he does, but you have to rightfully obtain the money first. You sound like a very greedy person and I think your jealous
shareI know it’s your opinion but if you want some friendly advice: stop being bitter, stop feeling sorry for yourself , man up and either work to become a billionaire or suck it up and deal with it like a man.
shareYou have no idea who I am, how much I have, or anything of that nature. I could have $100 million dollars or $1 and it would change nothing about what I've said. It's irrelevant. Simply attacking the person presenting the argument isn't an argument, and it's clear you don't have any legitimate answers here.
"Because it’s rightfully his because he created a service that everyone wants. You aren’t entitled to it and it’s none of your business."
I've already responded to this. This does not answer/account for what I posted.
"Maybe if you can create the next big sensation then you can be a billionaire. It’d be great if everyone could be a billionaire and live like he does, but you have to rightfully obtain the money first. You sound like a very greedy person and I think your jealous"
Again, this has nothing to do with my comments. You are just skipping right to personal attacks because you have no answer to the questions/issues I proposed.
You haven’t presented an argument aside from the fact that you are bitter he has more money than you do and that’s tough luck. I could be completely wrong about my impression of you but that’s what I can conclude from your behavior on this thread. Just man up , stop feeling sorry for yourself and work to be the best person you can and I’ll think you’ll be a lot happier with yourself
shareYou have done nothing but make ridiculous assumptions, personal attacks, and responded to nothing that I've posted. Here, maybe you should re-read:
"'Who are you to determine how much someone "needs"???'
Because there's a limited supply of it? And a very tiny minority owns the vast majority of it? It's not unlimited?
And as I said in another post, other people's money IS our business when it's at that level. Billionaires can directly affect our lives (affecting policy/lobbying/political contributions/jobs), and a majority of the time it's not in a positive manner. A majority of the time it's to put more money in their pockets and less in ours - there is a limited supply of this stuff, and they have a vast majority of it.
So again, explain to me how a single human being "needs" / requires 1 billion+ dollars, nonetheless $70 billion?"
You'll notice that literally none of that has anything to do with my personal situation. Real issues, real questions, no answers - so you simply shoot the messenger, a pretty pathetic logical fallacy. Maybe don't get involved in conversations next time if you have no plan on actually conversing. Just a suggestion.
I’ve made no assumptions everything I concluded about you is based off your behavior, you have made assumption about the mark zukerberg and you’ve only demonstrated your own greed, there is nothing stopping you from becoming a billionaire except your piss poor , entitled attitude. No it’s not your business, he earned it fair and square off his creative ideas, you’re just jealous he’s more successful than you. The fact that he has more money than you do is no ones fault but your own. He didn’t steal it or earn it illegally so therefore what he does with his money is up to him. You are a spoiled brat. How much money do you make? By your logic it is my business.
shareAgain, you keep saying the same crap that has absolutely nothing to do with what I've posted... proving my point over and over again. Are you just unable to look objectively at issues? Maybe you're very young?
I don't know what the issue is, but you really shouldn't be commenting on these types of issues yet. You just don't have any ability whatsoever to present and respond to arguments.
Lol you have presented zero evidence so far, all I’m hearing is you cry like a two year old because he’s more successful than you are. He seems to be giving lots to charity doesn’t seem greedy to me. If he’s lobbying political groups to get more money then prove it. You have no ability to engage in an intelligent debate at all you immature child
shareYou also dodged my question how much money do you make?
shareIf he’s using political connections to generate more money for himself I will gladly entertain that idea, please provide proof
sharehttps://borgenproject.org/mark-zuckerbergs-charitable-donations/
Doesn’t seem very greedy to me , maybe if you are going to attack someone’s character next time you should have some actual evidence instead of just talking out of your anus, just a suggestion
Nobody NEEDS a billion dollars. He presumably WANTS what he has and he obtained it legally, so it truly is no ones business. Billions of people, including you have things you don't need. If you obtained things you don't need legally, is it anyone's business whether you need them or not?
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There will ALWAYS be inequality in the world. I'm more bothered having to support the MILLIONS who won't work for what THEY need and we, the taxpayers have to provide for them.
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I agree with helping people who can't help themselves. I'm Vehemently against people who WON'T help themselves.
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You literally said I don't know. Then proceeded to ask me to define stealing. That is no answer.
shareYour question was poorly worded, I’m not going to judge someone until I know all the facts. Now what’s your evidence that he’s greedy. If you don’t answer you lose and you’re a coward
shareHow was it poorly worded? I asked a simple question. Is stealing an idea ethical? That is literally what I asked you. How is that poorly worded? I never asked you to make a judgement toward Mark Zuckerberg I asked you to answer the question. Yes or no? Nope you haven't answered mine therefore I'm not going further until you answer yes or no.
shareI've answered your question and that's the only answer you're going to get. Now I'm assuming you can't demonstrate that Mark Zuckerberg is greedy so therefore you lose. Do you ever get tired of getting your butt kicked?
shareI don't know is no answer sorry bud you lost.
shareYou can't demonstrate the he's greedy therefore you haven't proven your case and you lose again.
shareNope you never answered the question.
shareThe debate was over you asserting that he was a greedy person, you had the burden of proof to prove he was a greedy person since you can't do it you lose.
shareNope I never claimed he was greedy. I called you out on a generalization you like to exhibit. That was that not everyone who is rich did it by hard work some inherit it. I then asked you a simple question you failed to answer. You lost bud.
shareSo he's not greedy? Glad you conceded that you lost. That's all I have to say to you.
shareNever said he was or was not. So nice try bud you lost again lol. Tell me you ever get tired of losing debates? Debating you is just so easy.
shareUntil you put forth an argument I am correct that you haven't demonstrated that he's a Greedy person. Just admit you lost and salvage whatever dignity you have left.
shareI did put forth one you failed to come against any point I made. Therefore I win.
shareYou have not provided any proof that he’s greedy, that’s the entire basis of the thread so yes you do lose. Think of yourself as the prosecution who didn’t bring any evidence to the court room
shareNope that is not the point I made against you. I asked you a question you could not answer.
shareI answered your question, you refused to answer mine and back up your assertion. You got destroyed. Deal with it loser.
shareI don't know is not an answer. You lost.
shareWrong, it would depend on the situation that's why I don't know. Now are you going to answer my question or are you going to coward out like you always do?
shareIt is a yes or no question. So wrong I don't know is not an answer.
shareYou got an answer now answer my point. If you can’t prove he’s greedy then you lose
shareNope you are done bud. That was not an answer.
shareAll this kid gives is non-answers, and ad hominems. A total waste of time.
shareOh I can see it. His ignorance is painful.
shareLol all I asked for was evidence that he’s greedy, all I’ve heard is that he has money and that’s why he’s greedy. Being successful doesn’t make you greedy but yes I know I’m so unreasonable for asking you to defend your claims
shareI never said being successful made you greedy. Therefore I'm not addressing that.
shareThen why are you talking to me?
shareTalking with ignorant people like you makes me chuckle.
shareMaking a fool out of ignorant trolls makes me chuckle, that’s the only reason I even give you the time of day
shareIs that so? Well the fact that you made yourself look foolish didn t help your case bud. Try harder next time.
shareNice try , the point of this thread is proving he’s greedy, evidence has not been presented so therefore there’s no justification to call him greedy. You’re just here because you want attention
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