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Did Johnny deserve what Max does to him?


Who else think johnny didn't deserve what max does to him at the end? Ok, Johnny raped a girl earlier in the movie and set Goose on fire, but he wasn't present when they murdered Jessie and Sprog. Max's actions aren't justified. Would you honestly kill johnny rather than simply arresting him?

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"Would you honestly kill johnny rather than simply arresting him?"

Yes! He'd seen the Kid get off earlier. Why spend time on paperwork?




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I think Johnny deserved to die, but I felt death by being burned alive would have been a more appropriate punishment for Toecutter, don't you think? Johnny was reluctant to burn Goose alive. Toecutter was the one forcing him to do it and of course he's the leader of the gang and most responsible for their actions. He was lucky to die a relatively painless death.

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Who else think johnny didn't deserve what max does to him at the end? Ok, Johnny raped a girl earlier in the movie and set Goose on fire


This is maybe THE most hilarious statemant I've read in long time on IMDB! Thank you, you made my day.

But seriously, what would someone have to do to get righteously killed in your opinion? Don't get offended, but your attitude explains why rapists in some parts of Europe (Sweden e.g.) get off scot free most of the time.

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I don't think it's that clear cut, actually. First of all, rapists generally don't get the automatic death penalty in the western world, do they? Even going by "an eye for an eye" it would only be murder that gets you executed. Secondly, he doesn't even willingly set Goose on fire. He's reluctant to do it and it only happens because of an accident (Granted, Max doesn't know this, but the audience does).

Like I said earlier, I think being burned alive was a punishment better reserved for Toecutter. And for Johnny, assuming the courts are out of the question, I'd say beating him to within an inch of his life or, at most, a quick death, would be more appropriate for him.

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Definitely deserved it. Reminds me of the scene in Watchmen alittle though. Rorscach with the child molester? I mean Alan Moore "might" have borrowed from Mad Max?

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As William Munny said to Little Bill: "deserve's got nothin' to do with it."

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Hey, at least Max gave him the choice to live or die.



Hey there, Johnny Boy, I hope you fry!

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Johnny deserved worse than what he got, if i was George Miller and i knew that Mad Max 2 was coming out three years later i would had Max beat Johnny up then leaving him for dead, Max though he was dead but in Mad Max 2 Johnny is still alive and is the bitch of The Humungus getting made to sleep with him, then at the end of Mad Max 2 Max finally kills him

Believe it or not, the early screenplay drafts of Mad Max 2 revealed Lord Humungus to be a scarred-and-insane Jim Goose close to the film's conclusion. So the notion of various characters surviving what appears to be certain death/incineration is something that's actually occurred to George Miller and his collaborators at various points in the creative process.

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Believe it or not, the early screenplay drafts of Mad Max 2 revealed Lord Humungus to be a scarred-and-insane Jim Goose close to the film's conclusion..


rubbish

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Er...it's still the truth. It was discarded very early on by George Miller during the screenwriting process, though.

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I always took that scene as showing that Max was so mentally screwed up by that point that trying to be fair wasn't on his mind anymore. He just wanted to kill.

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He deserved that and more

Esta es mi firma


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That's a tough one,actually.Max's revenge on Johnny is,indeed, one of the most brutal ever filmed.Johnny sure looks more like a spoiled brat in the final scene rather than a gang member.The viewer cannot guarantee that he believes what he says to Max about ''bad people''..'' I am not with them''.He most likely does not.As far as his actions throughout the movie are concerned,he committed murder almost ''taken by the hand'' in the Goose death scene.(Remember the preceding scene,where he tries to tolerate burning his hand with a lighter's flame and cannot go along with it?) Maybe the director's choice to have this particular character suffer the worst of Max's revenge is deliberate in order to illustrate Max's words to Fifi ''it's that rat circus out there,I'm beginning to enjoy it''.And this is accompanied with loneliness,as the final,endless,white line travelling shot indicates.

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