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The entire premise fall apart when you understand...


The matrix itself the simulation would need way more energy than the human can produce. All the system to keeping people alive, feed them, create the simulation and the agents, and all the programs, they are recreating the entire planet that would require crazy amount of energy way more than the needed for the machines

Even with the original intention of using the humans as a form of ram memory they would need to process way more data to produce the simulation, there must be ways more practical of doing that, than create a simulation of an entire planet with real people interacting with each other and the environment in real time.

No complaining Im cool with that, this movie is awesome, is just people like the dude who has almost fill the entire board of this movie with threads of plot holes I dont understand them the movie has logical flaw, so what? if a writer bound himself by logic no fantasy movie or sifi would ever be made

Is ok produce debate, criticism, theory, speculation about the meaning of this and that and sometimes is really fun, but fill a board with posible plot holes (and lets be real most of them are just no real plot holes at all while other are cherry picking, just a few of those threads have valid points) like people are no aware of them is kinda virgin

Just enjoy the ride men

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Maybe they harvest the gas after feeding them sauerkraut and beans

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Soylent Green was even worse, in the end (SPOILER LOL) the guy shouts "SOON THEY WILL BREED HUMANS TO EAT"

like no you dummy, you cant breed humans to feed humans, theres just no way this works

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The premise of The Matrix is simply not reasonable.

Soylent Green has no essential problem with the premise. What Thorn is screaming at the end is a minor point. Thorn is dying and the fact that he is obviously wrong does not matter. What does matter is that 1) The world is dying because the oxygen producing oceans are dead and 2) Soylent Green is a grotesque means of supplementing food production by feeding the survivors on the dead while everybody slowly dies.

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You express yourself very adequately. It is inspiring.

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I remember laughing out loud when I was watching the movie for the first time. People in the theatre thought I was crazy.

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Well the premise of the movie was that humans were the best source of energy... so just live with it and enjoy the movie...

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In a way you're right. The AI decided on a mammal with a slow reproductive rate when they could probably have harvested the same energy from sheep, cattle, fish or vegetation, get it faster and cheaper without the need for an expensive simulation to plug our minds into. That's if such a farm would have been efficient enough.

The correct way to handle this is probably by comparing Ellison's I have No Mouth and I Must Scream. The oppressors are not just unthinking robots; they are also conscious, capable of choices, and have developed a mad hatred for human beings based on previous injustices. Their slavery of humans is an act of autonomous revenge. So when Agent Smith is plain and open about his intrinsic disgust of humanity, this makes the setting far more understandable.

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they could probably have harvested the same energy from sheep, cattle, fish or vegetation

none of those things are sources of energy either , and , like humans, also wouldnt have worked.

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It's a METAPHOR for humans and animals.

Humans lock animals in cage and feed them for... humans to eat. Why not bypass animals? Why bother to feed animals?

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"...combined with a form of fusion..." carries a lot of water.

It's extremely rare for any sci-fi film to stand up to scrutiny.

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^^^^ this

We don't need excruciating detail in science FICTION, just enough to explain what we are seeing.

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i missed that bit . Yes - plot hole avoided

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People are over thinking this film.

The point of the film was to posit the question of whether we live in a simulation, and to question the nature of reality.
The rest is just fun, because it's a film.

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