With all this 'talk' of an American Remake...

"Erm America's remakes of anything are generally terrible"

Except, that's not true.

"Love your typical arrogance though, thats why the whole world hates your country. "

And in what world is what you just said not incredibly arrogant? The guy you're replying to is obviously joking. You on the other hand.. were pretty much caught being a complete idiot.

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Haha true true. Its being remade by Chris Columbus's production 1492 which I doubt will have a strong lead. Anywho Im an American, yes I gave this movie a chance and sorry I wasnt as impressed as I thought I would be. It wasnt what I hoped. No I didnt want pointless Jurassic Park but this didnt do it for me.

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Oh, Mr Semantic. 'American' is a standard adjective to refer to citizens of the USA. Even presidents do it, and there was even the bloody movie, 'The American President'. Was he actually the president of Canada, the USA and Mexico, etc?

Every time somebody criticises the USA using the perfectly acceptable and understandable adjective 'American', some comes on and splits hairs about definitions. Are you the same person I encountered before on this?

'America' can refer to the continents, but most commonly in daily speech, it refers to the USA. In actual fact, 'The Americas' is more often used to refer to the continents, and North America is most often used to refer to that part of the continents.

Note that when people say 'America' in the context of this thread, it is a condensed form of 'The United States of America', and no less nonsensical as when Americans call their nation 'The States' or 'The United States', as if there could possibly be no other place they would be talking about.

The whole world 'realises' this variety of contextual meaning because we have quality education systems and an awareness of the outside world. We also are aware of the subtleties of context and nuance. I am sure you were not as confused as you appear as to the use of the term.

Now whether or not the things actually being said here about Americans are even remotely true or objective, is another discussion altogether, which in order to 'refudiate' (LOL) needs no flimsy hair splitting on definitions.

Of course Americans aren't any more stupid, ignorant or idiotic than the worst any nation has to offer. Another contextual meaning to the term 'America' is that it most often refers to the mythical, and often hypocritical, construct generated by American media, films, literature and political rhetoric. The world rejects this construct, but it is constantly waved by the nation's standard bearers.

It is THIS that the world so often criticises. The broken myth. But people also say that where's there's smoke, there's fire.

"I haven't met an American yet who has heard the term "Limey". Seriously I know thousands of Americans and me being English I have broached the subject with all of them and none have heard of it. They all think of us as Brits, so basically I doubt very strongly that jambox5000 is American. "

Funny, the three Americans and two Canadians I know have heard of it - and use it relentlessly (except one of the Americans who calls me "teabagger"...it's cool, we're freinds :D)


But in seriousness I do think a remake of this film would be a mistake, unless they change the plot....like a whole lot. There's a difference between a remake of a film done merely to "Englishize" it and then there's a remake that changes stuff/plot/characters to make it relevent to the country that's remaking it - ie, the remake of The Ladykillers which I enjoyed as much as the original.

I'm not anti-hollywood, some of my favourite films are from there. Die Hard, Alien, Zodiac, etc...these are great films (IMO) and to say that "all American films are garbage" is frankly, a moronic thing to say. Of course there are a lot more shyte films from the USA than from anywhere else - THEY MAKE MORE FILMS THAN ANYWHERE ELSE!

But I digress. Remakes when done well are fantastic things, but I agree with someone else (can't be arsed to look up who) who said that there should be more openness about a remake being a remake - like how I only just found out that The Departed was a remake of a much ealier film.

Someone earlier said that if they changed the Trolls to Bigfoot (bigfeet?) and set it in one of the many massive forests in the US it'd be good. I agree with this in principle and I'd give the film a chance.

But if the remake is just a scene-for-scene copy of the original but with the cast of 90210 then sod it up the arse with a wooden spoon :D

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In reply to Minus_the_Details you hit the nail on the head. I'm just reading back some of the replies here and re-reading my original, somewhat 'sarcastic' post out loud. While I do appreciate some of the audience will undoubtedly seek out the original film after watching its remake, but for the most part, it will just pass over the heads of the majority. It is still nice to know there is a collective of "cult" fans willing to drink from the original's cup though. And I know for sure that I wouldn't have watched Infernal Affairs had it not been for The Departed (a more superior, structured film than the original in my opinion)
But I can't help hoping one day American mainstream audiences will have the opportunity to watch the original foreign language film at the time of its official release, as opposed to having to wait a year or two for a two disc box set containing the original and its crappy remake. It feels a little sad to me that many see the Hollywoodised inferior remake first, and on the big screen. Only to have to watch the original on a small screen.
Btw I agree with you on the American remake of The Ring being better than the Japanese original. Swings and roundabouts :)


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hell_demon_maggot, go try watching a film in Germany in its original language, then report back on the glorious "un-americanized" ways...

It boggles the mind you Hollywood haters (who often pay for the dumbest of dumb crap that comes from Tinseltown – or don't pay at all and illegally download –, instead of supporting the interesting stuff that's still also being made there) don't even realize that by putting down American cinéma you're just showing you don't know anything about the medium to begin with. In other words, you say less about the target of your ire than about yourself. You'd probably be able to "appreciate" François Truffaut and condemning "the Americans" at the same time...

(And yes, I could do without most of those remakes as well, whether they're being concocted in Hollywood, Bollywood or elsewhere.)


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I'm American and I love this movie. I'd rather not see a remake of this. I actually prefer foreign movies to anything Hollywood is spewing out these days.

If that was its planned narrative, I'll be the hypocrite sitting in front of you, watching this remake at the cinema.

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