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With all this 'talk' of an American Remake...

posted 13 years ago by filmchap
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Here's something quite novel... how about giving this film what it so finely deserves and that is worldwide promotion, marketing and distribution, not a f-ing remake? This film hasn't even been released in the UK? Why not? Well its obvious, there isn't any room for it because of the US *beep* that's always taking up space on our cinema screens. Somebody needs wake up and give this Norwegian gem its dues by playing it in the multiplex's? It makes me sick that millions are spent on promoting the c**p that's currently in our cinemas while only pennies seem to be offered to the real film-makers out there.
There's absolutely no need to remake this film. No need what-so-ever! Just re-distribute it. Get it into the multiplex's, start treating real film goers with respect. And stop pandering to those idiot audiences who hate subtitled movies or any film that doesn't have a Hollywood hack director behind them. If they can't see what they are missing, then screw those kind of cinema goers and their small mindedness, they and Hollywood do nothing for the art of cinema and haven't done so for many years!
Don't even get me started about other threads on this message board that criticise the characteristics of the trolls in this movie. This is Norwegian folklore. Not f'%king "Trolls according to Walt Disney!" If America does end up "bastardising" Norwegian trolls then a Norwegian director needs to remake Fantasia but instead of a stupid high pitched voiced mouse as its star, remake it with a "Turd with testicles for ears", see how you like that blasphemy.

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[–] BoSoxJim 13 years ago

You do realize that the reason why American "beep" fills the cinema screens around the world is that brings the cinema owners the most amount of money.

So instead of complaining about it, do something about it. Don't go to any American made/produced movies in your country. Start a movement that would only allow non-US films in your theaters.

But you won't do any of that because all you really like doing is complaining about America.

Nobody forces you (and all the other whiners on this board) to go to any US made film.

[–] ViewandReview 13 years ago

The essential problem with most remakes is that the are made to cater for the lowest common denominator type of audience. And of course, there is something that we can't get away from; most American people and cinema -goers are ignorant Xenophobes who can't stand to even give a chance to anything made outside of their precious country. It is simply true. Somebody said earlier that they hadn't even heard of the original Ringu. I'm sorry, that to me, as an Englishman, is pure *beep* ing ignorance. American people, at least film viewers, seem so contemptuously caught up in their own system that they have no interest in the rest of the world. It's incredibly pathetic. And dumb, American people are undoubtebly one of the most culturally deluded nations in the world.

Remakes can work; the Departed was a very good remake with a good cast and director behind it. Most remakes however are helmed by some moron and are likely to star some useless person like Sarah Michelle Gellar in the lead role. America seems to belittle the originals by churning out some piece of crap like that. Trouble is, audiences lap it up - and that's a sad truth that spreads worldwide.

Btw I acknowledge that America is not a country but a continent, and I don't have much against Canada. Or America really. You just have to feel that the Hollywood system is patronising anybody with a reasonable IQ and disallowing decent and original works to work in other countries. It is sad, but the informed minority can't save the increasing idiot population of the world.

Oh, and to the Nobcrust above: We like American movies; everybody sees them because there isn't much choice. It's a powerful industry replete with performers we like and those we detest. It is an international market.

The problem is the mockery that original works are placed under in order to generate mass appeal. Ie: cast Jessica Alba in the lead role.
It's NOT America - it's the idiotic decisions made about remaking good work that often doesn't need remaking. Although that wouldn't be needed if America as a whole wasn't so ignorant and loathing of foreign language/reading subtitles.

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[–] ViewandReview 13 years ago

Thanks man.

[–] j-m-bogen 13 years ago

I don't understand why a person is "ignorant" for not having heard of Ringu. Movies are remade all the time here, it's true, but it's practically never publicized that a movie is a remake. It took forever for me to find out that Departed wasn't an original idea, and the fact that it was up for an Oscar just confirmed that illusion for me. Hollywood isn't exactly clamoring to give credit to its inspirations.

I definitely agree that the original should be more prominently referenced if an American studio wants to remake a foreign movie (or an old American movie, for that matter—3:10 to Yuma, True Grit, etc). But as it stands, there is typically little evidence to betray a remake, so I don't see why the average viewer should be expected to recognize them.

I'm trying not to take offense at your blatantly vitriolic generalizations, because I've said some of the same things about the lowbrow sector of American movie fans. But I still wish you could have made this point without calling me (as a movie-watching American) dumb, lazy, and ignorant. There are stupid people everywhere, in every country; the fact that stupid people in the United States happen to be particularly catered to by our perpetually out-of-touch government and media is certainly not my fault.

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[–] nolanism 11 years ago

ViewandReview, you're completely correct. I'm an American and I 100% agree with this because it's simply true. Americans (not all, but most) are so wrapped up in their own country and media that they fail to acknowledge there's other countries out there! That there's other film industries! So many American films are either mindless Hollywood blockbusters or remakes that are almost always terrible because they're made with a typical, boring Hollywood mindset.

As someone who's generally opposed to remakes and watches foreign films, I'm come across so many people who don't want to watch a non-English movie because they don't want to read subtitles. How lazy and ignorant is that? That you're going to completely disregard a movie and wait for the inevitable remake because you don't want to read subtitles. Everyone else around the world does when they watch Hollywood films, so why can't you? Its sad really, and the problem is much bigger than simply not wanting to read subtitles. Its lack of cultural awareness.

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[–] UberNoodle 13 years ago

That's *beep* logic. The market is saturated and American multinationals have fingers in so many pies.

And many nations DID make moves to limit the amount of foreign films in their cinemas, however those limits were said to be 'anti-competitive' by the USA during FTA talks and were removed or reduced significantly.

Regardless, the market is saturated. The little boy couldn't keep his finger in the dyke and we are all flooded. What can we do? Boycotting American product would be not only impossible for most part, but stupid. Its availability in OUR countries is not the problem. Its the availability and exposure of OUR products in the USA that are the problem.

Anyway, you are clearly one of this 'seen it all' posters going on about 'whiners'. That suits you fine because it excuses you from actually understanding the issues and what people are really talking about.

[–] GipsyDanger84 13 years ago

I'm completely with you 100% on this. I'm american, and I'm honestly tired of the remakes of good international cinema. I mean the only passable remake that's been done is Let Me In, but why was it necessary? [REC]>Quarantine, Death at a Funeral (english) > Death at a Funeral (black), Let the Right One In > Let Me In. There was also talk about an american remake of Oldboy, in which case there would have been a stabbing spree throughout hollywood until I found the people responsible.

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[–] very3 13 years ago

Dont blame America as if all your highbrow *beep* just isnt "gotten". thats just all in your snooty mind.like alot of the stuff you're so proud of,its a *beep* movie, nobody cares about your need to continually pat yourselves on the back for *beep* movies like this.worry about making it right the first time rather than getting your pantys in a bunch about Americans making other versions of it.

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[–] UberNoodle 13 years ago

Often Hollowood studios manipulate distribution deals to include the right to remake. It's bullying, but small film makers are made to feel that there's no other way. The music industry is infamous for doing similar things with ownership.

[–] d98mp 13 years ago

You are absolutely right. (I became really disappointed and angry when I tried to buy the Danish TV series "Riget" and discovered that the only version sold was an American remake, and this is in Sweden where we can understand part of the dialog even without subtitles.)

Making an American version of this movie would be even more stupid as it has a Norwegian context.

[–] haunted_shore 13 years ago

This got released in the UK, man... even Cineworld and Vue cinemas were screening it...

[–] SteveH2002 13 years ago

This arrogant American agrees with what I believe is the general feeling on this board - an American remake would (probably) be a disaster. Just finished watching Trollhunter and I liked it (4 out of 5 stars on Netflix.) Don't see how they can pull off a remake, anyway - trolls are a Scandy thing.

I usually don't watch remakes, anyway. There are couple of movies I've watched that have had well received America remakes but I've had no interest in seeing them - Let the Right One In and the British tv series Life on Mars.

[–] jacklad12 13 years ago

Ok all this back and forth arguing is stupid. Lets be honest here, Most big movie producers are in America, Film producers want to make as much money as possible. Yes they could market and sell foreign films in the US in order to pay tribute to their originality and bring culture to their country or they could do a generic remake and make millions. Hmmm I wonder which of the two film producers care about more.

Still I do hope they avoid an American remake of this as well as other gems like district 9, I hear they're planning a remake of the inbetweeners, shame.