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Remember the time Venus and Serina were crushed by the 201st-ranked, drunk, out-of-shape, nobody, male tennis player?


Pepperidge farm does.

P.S. and it was Venus and Serina's big, arrogant mouths that initiated the challenge.

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Is that in this film? I might want to see that part.

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The OP obviously made that up.

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Nah, that's a pretty well known story. Twenty years ago (when they were MUCH younger, much less savvy, and Much more arrogant), the sisters claimed they could beat any man ranked outside the top 200. A journeyman named Karsten Braasch (ranked 203 at the time) accepted the challenge. His preparation for the match consisted of drinking and smoking heavily, then stumbling on to the court.

He thrashed them both, one after the other (6-1, 6-2). What's interesting is that he claims he "took it easy on them." I don't doubt him for a second.

NOW.

These days, if you ask Serena, she'll make it VERY clear that the best female tennis player on the planet simply has No Chance against an even middling male tennis pro. In her words, "Men's Tennis and Women's Tennis are like two different games."

Moral: With age comes wisdom.

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Where's a link to the story? Still sounds like some silly wish fulfillment story some drunk white dude made up in a bar. And if it's so "well known" as you say, how come I've never seen anything about it anywhere. Sounds like bull**** to me, since you clearly don't like the Williams sisters for whatever stupid reason. And since you claim this happened when they were much younger and less seasoned, they could probably whip this guy off the court today. I seriously doubt if either one of the sisters remembers this guy. And you claiming she said that a female tennis player has no chance against a drunk guy on the court---yeah right. I don't believe that either. Just admit that you can't stand to see two successful black women in the top of their field, so you want to put them down---even using some stupid, obscure story that's probably made up just to do that.

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"Where's a link to the story?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karsten_Braasch#Match_against_the_Williams_sisters
https://www.tennisnow.com/Blogs/NET-POSTS/November-2017-(1)/The-Man-Who-Beat-Venus-and-Serena-Back-to-Back.aspx

"Still sounds like some silly wish fulfillment story some drunk white dude made up in a bar. And if it's so "well known" as you say, how come I've never seen anything about it anywhere."

Because you're a casual. It's a VERY well known story.

"Sounds like bull**** to me, since you clearly don't like the Williams sisters for whatever stupid reason."
I *love* the Williams sisters. For many reasons. *Huge* fan. Venus kicked down the door, after working her @$$ off, and has consistently represented for a SEVERELY underrepresented demo for a Long Time. Serena is simply the best female tennis player of all time. Period. Bottom line: You've (unsurprisingly) made a completely ridiculous/erroneous conclusion.

"And since you claim this happened when they were much younger and less seasoned, they could probably whip this guy off the court today. I seriously doubt if either one of the sisters remembers this guy."
You'd be wrong. As I said, it's a Famous story; you're the only one that doesn't know about it.

"And you claiming she said that a female tennis player has no chance against a drunk guy on the court---yeah right. I don't believe that either."
So we've learned: you are bad at thinking AND reading comprehension. That's not what I said at all. . .go back and read what I said. Then have someone with a functioning brain explain it to you.

And why not: if you want to read her more current thoughts on her competing against men, here ya go:
https://www.essentiallysports.com/tennis-news-wta-atp-i-would-lose-6-0-6-0-in-five-minutes-serena-williams-on-playing-against-andy-murray/

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You must be one of those white woke women with your White Savior complex )))

No wonder you never heard of this. Since I doubt you follow tennis and just support Serena because she is black and you want to show how good and generous white savior you are )))

Its a well know fact. Every tennis fan knows it. The reason why Williams sister never talk about it is because they are embarrassed by it and want everyone to forget. They were bragging how strong they are, as strong as men and then guy ranked 200 in mens - easily beat them. Because men are stronger, thats biology. No matter how many times wokes tell you that man becomes as weak as woman the moment he wishes it.

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"The reason why Williams sister never talk about it is because they are embarrassed by it and want everyone to forget."

Well, yeah. Do YOU talk about the silly mistakes you made, when you were an unsophisticated teenager?

"They were bragging how strong they are, as strong as men"

This is simply not true. They said they could beat anyone OUTSIDE the top 200. That is a Far Cry from "as strong as men." After this loss, they revised their take, saying they could beat any man on the tour outside of the top 350. FWIW, this is still a delusional attitude, but it's Not At All what you've claimed they said.

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And Serena cant beat anyone anymore. She cant play at all. Because she got too fat and her ankles and knees cant hold all that extra weight when she runs and jumps. So her ankles gave up at last Wimbledon. She should have lost weight.

She will never play again. She does not officially retires because being Active Player brings more money from sponsors. The moment she will become Ex-player - many sponsors will leave.

She’ll probably try to enter Rollan Garros or Wimbledon one last time. But will lose in first round to some no name ranked 100 and then will announce retirement.

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"Serena can't beat anyone anymore"???? Good Lord. . .do you hear yourself? This goes beyond hyperbole, into purposeful absurdity. Don't forget: you're talking about the GOAT female tennis player. If she puts together her best current game, ANYBODY is gonna have a problem w/her.

"She’ll probably try to enter Rollan Garros or Wimbledon one last time. But will lose in first round to some no name ranked 100 and then will announce retirement."
You speak with assurance. A more intelligent take would be "well, there's really no way to know." Tell you what: See you back here when we get there. . .be interesting to see your take, then.

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Serena is 40 years old and should have retire 3 years ago.

No matter who she was before. NOW she cant beat anyone because of her age. Pete Sampras was great tennis player but he cant beat anyone on the tour now because he is like 50 years old. Everyone get old.

There is a reason why she is not playing since injury at Wimbledon. Her body cant sustain her weight. She is 40 years old very heavy woman who wants to run and jump for 3 hours. Her legs gave up. She will never return. If she will then she will lose 2-3 matches in firs round and then retire.

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I get it, I get it: "Father Time is UNDEFEATED."

But all I'm saying is: you never know. Athletes aren't like the rest of us. . .sometimes, incredible things happen. Isn't that why we watch sports?

This is why I *never* bet money, and why my attitude is always: "Well, let's see what happens!"

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LOL, I hope you have learned your lesson.

You should've just done some quick research instead of coming back with a comment like this. It would not have been hard for you to find the truth.

I suppose much like the Venus sisters, you have lived and learned.

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Oh man - is there a video link for that? Can't find one.

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