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I felt the same way! Such an amazing film! Loved the story, characters, outstanding performances, earthy, slice-of-life direction cinematography. The love of family here is so touching (if only my "family" was even a fraction as good, loving, kind, dignified, etc.!) No matter how many times I watch this movie, it is a worthwhile, awesome experience. Thank you for sharing!
YOU get a life.
Scumbag? For preferring Sounder to The Godfather? YOU are the scumbag for insulting someone based on their taste in movies. Both are great movies, doesn't meant one can't prefer one over the other. Grow the f**k up.
Funny you say all that about Mitchum, but compliment Peck on his performance. Star and producer, Peck, actually credited most of the movie's success to Mitchum for making it possible.
Not saying you should change your mind. Just thought it was funny, lol.
That did occur to me while watching the movie. That the main object was the protect the daughter, even after the wife was assaulted. It made me sad (and disgusted) that, not only, was this what the film was going for, but that it probably mirrors reality as well.
I get that that parents want to protect their children, but beloved spouses shouldn't be considered lesser or disposable in place of children. I would be devastated if my partner cared less for me and my security than for any kids or animals that we have.
Was it explicitly mentioned Mr. Robinson the one that kicked his out of their bed?
Tracy actually did tell him they were on the spot because of him. And later, Seth even said that the reporters could write anything they liked about him, which makes him even more despicable than he already was. For him, everything always revolves around himself. He never has a 2nd thought about how his family could be affected by his thoughtless actions.
You sure base a lot of your defenses on a reprehensible guy like Seth Lord based on what he supposedly didn't say (some of which you got wrong). How about focusing on what he *actually did say.*
Wow, a post I made today echoes exactly what you said. Thank you for straightening out the facts!
The ones who are arguing so hard on Seth Lord's behalf can't even get their facts straight and so confidently write several paragraphs based off what they *think* happened or what Seth Lord supposedly didn't explicitly say. Ridiculous.
I agree with you on almost everything, except the part about Dexter being from the "lower class." That's not correct. He came from, if not wealth, a very privileged upper-crust upbringing. He and Tracy even grew up together. George was the one that came from poverty. But, otherwise I love what you wrote.
Excellent argument! I would've killed to see you put an asshole like this in his place!
A very long, long read... Based on either a biased falsehood or a bad memory. Tracy outright asks Seth if she is to blame for Tina Mara. And Seth says without any hesitation " to a certain extent, I *expect* you are." Tracy calls him a "coward," which is justifiable for an old, grown man refusing to take accountability for his own actions and, instead, is much more comfortable blaming his daughter for his affair.
As if that wasn't creepy enough, he states that whatever he is is better than being a "prig" and a "spinster," basically declaring that his worthless cheating ass is better than women, who for whatever reason, never marry, including his daughter... And he doesn't stop there. Oh no. He continues... By accusing Tracy of sounding like a "jealous woman," all the while commenting on her figure and calling the "note" in her voice "unattractive."
As if all that wasn't enough, Seth is so critical and rude toward everyone, including his daughter's fiance, but refuses to apply those same standards to himself. Call Tracy what you like, but, unlike her pathetic father, she didn't make demands of people that she didn't make on *herself.* Also, you can't blame the girl for wanting to defend her fiance, as well as herself, from her callous, insulting father.
Mike being so sweet toward Tracy in the 2nd half of the movie is the only thing that keeps this film from being an absolute cesspool of male depravity, including but not limited to fathers blaming their daughters for their infidelities, as well as, uncles going around pinching anything with a vagina, even his own damn niece. WTF???
I might've included Dexter in with Mike, but that opening where he "socks" his ex-wife is also unacceptable.
Yeah... It's aged pretty badly. I might let it go though, except that Redford goes as far as to call someone a "dyke" in "The Way We Were..." all because she didn't like his putridly written film. As good-looking and influential as Redford is, it does make me question his character that he's constantly playing characters that casually insult LGBTQ people.
The only one being "rude, thickheaded" and "ignorant" is you. *You* stop "[overreacting]"
As disturbing as the domestic violence scenes are, the way the movie registered to me was simply telling their relationship as it was without taking any kind of moral stance on it.
Anyway, I already know that domestic violence wrong, so I don't need the movie to go out of its way to tell me that. Just as long as they don't advocate in favor of domestic violence, I can stand an objective depiction. Hell, I even prefer it that way, granted that it's based on accuracy and solid truth.
Where did you hear she said he never hit her? That is absolutely false. Loretta Lynn not only talks about getting hit by her husband, but also talks retaliating against him (despite it not being shown in the movie).
She is even quoted saying, "Everytime Doo smacked me, he smacked hit twice."
https://www.biography.com/musicians/loretta-lynn-doo-marriage-cheating-violence
Why did you find Astrid unlikeable?
.... So what if you're a woman? That hardly changes anything.
Exactly what I thought. But, I guess Gabi's pride and her perfectionist way played a huge part in her decision and deluding herself into thinking that was what she wanted. By becoming closer to God, she could become her most perfect self, esp. as a nurse, maybe?
You bring up excellent points. Rather than God, the pope and church seem to be the ones to demand obedience, loyalty, and worship for themselves.
The current Pope Francis seems to be doing a wonderful job bringing people closer to God. But, who knows what goes on behind closed doors and if this direction will continue...