Did he kill Caleb?

It felt like they tried to make it feel like he killed him, but it didn't make much sense since he did everything he could to save the guy two seconds before that. Plus, while he had feelings for the girl, he wasn't really stepping up for her at all. He was more than willing to step aside and said so again and again.

If he killed her then what's the point? The guy who tries to do the right thing again and again is the guy who kills people (after saving them)?

Bad movie. Lame ending.


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Regarding what happened between Loomis and Caleb, the timing I
want to focus on is towards the
end where Loomis had just saved Caleb from falling over the cliff the
first time and now has the opportunity to save him a second time. It is
clear that there was no hesitation the first time in deciding to save
him. However circumstances/universe gave him a second opportunity to
rethink his decision and to give him the upper hand in choosing an
outcome. At the same time Anne is sitting at the kitchen table pushing
the empty glass closer and closer to the edge. It is interesting
symbolically to think about the glass as it is empty and perhaps it
represents her relationship with Caleb or even Caleb himself as a
person without much substance. She is not treating the glass as
valuable, she is showing rejection or even potentially destructive
action which seems out of character. She is just pushing the limits,
maybe even of her own way of being. I was surprised when the glass fell
off the table that I did not hear the sound of broken glass but instead
heard a dull thud. And I think it was real glass rather than plastic.
Whether glass or plastic because nothing broke, then I think this
suggests that Caleb did not die. Also I think of the idea that all
three of their beings were connected on some higher consciousness level
that resulted in their actions simultaneously converging. Anne was
pushing the glass off the table perhaps symbolizing that she was
rejecting a relationship with Caleb, at the same time Caleb on an
unconscious level put himself back in the position the second time to
fall off the cliff to bring things to a head, and Loomis making
sustained meaningful eye contact with Caleb at that time meant that a
decision point had to be reached. I think they all knew that for all
three to live together would likely be impossible and that Caleb did
not have the knowledge or persistence to create a survivable life with
Anne. It does not make sense that Loomis killed Caleb because he would
have had to contaminate himself to dispose of the body. It seemed clear
to me that Loomis had not fully regained his physical strength at this
point and eliminating the evidence of the body would have taken an
effort. He did not go back to the farm dirty or exhausted. It is
possible as others have suggested, in exchange for his life being
saved, Caleb agreed to move on. Caleb's personality being such that he
seems more of a wanderer and he had his eyes set on getting Anne
sexually from the get go. His way of talking to her was to persuade her
how to think or telling her what she might want to hear all in an
effort to manipulate her. There was never any genuine care for her, not
even in their sexual act. On the other hand, Loomis was the more
ethical of the two men. He did not have to disclose to Anne that he
killed her brother, and he took the chance that she might never forgive
him. He was obviously not comfortable in lying to her. I got the
feeling that killing was not a choice that is comfortable for him, but
that for Caleb is more second nature. Especially the incident in the
mine, where I believe he killed the two men. So why would he lie to her
about Caleb?

Loomis told Caleb two things:
-that he is ok with their "relation" (even told Ann that)
-Anson is a dead city.
OK?
Caleb said: (from memory)
-You don't seem like a jelous person.
-Like you said, Anson is probably dead.

Meaning, Loomis was lying about Anson and Caleb knew that. Remember when He told them, at the table, that he took only country roads and rail ways because he was afraid to meet people(and Loomis in fact was heading to Anson at the begining of the movie). Then he met Ann and that little paradise and decided to stay there.
So, in my opinion, Caleb is now running towards Anson.

Ps. Check wiki for Caleb biblical character.

It is left up to assumption since Caleb did not exist in the book. Hell, the title and backstory are all that is the same

Ann is 16 in the book, not 18ish
The movie lacks flashabcks that the book has ..WHICH, I FEEL, would have made for a better flick

John is not black in the book, no biggie I suppose, but he is not a domineering control freak in the book either, until you are nearing the end.

In the book, these 2 go at each other. John shoots her in the leg and burns all of her clothes to keep her from leaving..oh and the dog dies. Ann finally escapes John and heads to where they saw birds flying...

As I said, the story line and 2 characters, a dog and the meeting the 2 had is the ONLY thing that is the same

SO!

The death is all on the viewer.

I say he died and sunk :)

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well,

I woudl like to think that John didn't kill Caleb.
but, it is illogical to think he just left without preparation.
Also, one of the last scenes shows Ann pushing a book and the book is pushing the glass of water. I think that John Loomis represents the book: in fact, at the beginning of the movie he grabs a book called A for Adam. He represent Z for Zacharia (the last man on earth as opposed to Adam, the first). On the other hand, when Ann meets Caleb, he asks for water and then they have that moment in the water. so, going back to one of the lasts scenes...Ann pushes the book, the book the glass of water until the glass of water falls (but does not break).
That scene symbolises what happened. and it let the audience know that Ann knows.
now, the part that is very difficult to interpret is the NOT breaking of the glass.
it could be a symbol that Caleb didn't die.
of course, if he didn't, the logical thing to do is leave. He knows he has it coming sooner or later.
That is my view.
did anybody read the book? Can the book provide any better explanation??




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