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America needs to adopt Britain's gun laws


That system actually works!!!

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PASS.🫤

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Nope, look the deep web and stupid Trump is making everyone a lunatic. Britain on the other hand has laws for internet porn and for gun laws!! Think about that shit you gluttonous and sadistic fools!!

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I AM AN INTOXICATED PSYCHOPATH...WE ALL ARE TO SOME EXTENT OVER HERE...LAUGH ALL YOU LIKE...BUT NOTICE HOW YOU DON'T FUCK WITH US.🙂

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I saw your photos, you are definitely prime psychopath. You're one step away from committing mass murder on a scale even your child would show no emotion at.

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MASS MURDER ISN'T MY BAG...I AM MORE SELECTIVE...HONESTLY...I AM A PRIME EXAMPLE OF A SOCIOPATH.

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No, Trump just made you a lunatic...

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That ain’t no damn lie.

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The only way to stop crime is to put criminals in a wheelchair or grave.

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UK is cucked.

2A4L!

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God save the Queen, man.

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The U.S. system is to make gun manufacturers rich while Republicans receive political donations, aka: bribes, from them.

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Wrong. So utterly wrong. You’re so blinded by your own stupidity into believing that hogwash that you’re incapable of recognizing real solutions.

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"The gun lobby advances its goals with campaign contributions and lobbying expenses. In 2016, the NRA spent $30 million to elect Donald Trump—more than any other special interest group—and the gun industry routinely spends more than $10 million each year lobbying in Washington. All of this money buys loyalty in Congress and state capitals across the country."
https://giffords.org/issues/the-gun-lobby/

"Lobbying by gun rights groups hit a spending record in 2021. They outspent gun control by more than 5x"
https://fortune.com/2022/05/25/nra-contributions-politicians-lobbying-gun-rights-groups-record-2021-ted-cruz/

"The gun lobby is not a single organization, but rather a collection of advocacy groups and corporations that invest in lobbying the government against firearm restrictions.

The largest of the gun rights groups, according to Open Secrets, is the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which describes itself as the “firearm industry trade association.”

The NSSF spent $5 million on lobbying in 2021.

As the second-largest gun rights lobbying group, the NRA spent $4.9 million on lobbying in 2021. Gun Owners of America, another gun rights group, spent $2.8 million on lobbying last year.

Individual firearm manufacturers also invest more modest amounts in lobbying.

Smith & Wesson spent $185,000 on lobbying in 2021, for example, while Sig Sauer spent $545,000 on lobbying in 2021.

Calls to curb the influence of the gun lobby typically suggest that politicians are beholden to the gun industry due to these lobbying efforts, as well as campaign contributions.

Gun rights groups do indeed give money to candidates, most of them Republicans.

The NSSF’s political action committee poured $512,000 into Republican candidates in the 2020 election and just $8,700 into Democratic candidates. Despite its struggles, the NRA’s political action committee gave $606,600 to Republican candidates in the 2020 race and just $9,900 to Democratic candidates."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/how-much-power-does-the-gun-lobby-really-have

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So they're supporting politicians who support gun rights. Gun manufacturers are already rich so what's your point?

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Rich people always want more money and power.

A number of years ago, fewer young people were buying guns so gun manufacturers constantly need to find ways to drive up sales like loose gun laws, targeting young children and fearmongering.

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Yeah, so? And stating that useless point proves what, exactly?

There’s probably a whole bunch of reasons why that was, which probably had nothing to with what you said.

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"Gun manufacturers are already rich..."
Rich people always want more money and power.

"they're supporting politicians who support gun rights."
All of this money buys loyalty in Congress and state capitals across the country. It's not about nonexistent gun rights for backward hicks, it's about politicians who want money and power because rich people always want more money and power.

For you:
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You're welcome!

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Yeah, so?…lol.

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I would like to add, britain has internet pornography laws also I heard.

A lot of these violent gun shootings correlates with the deepweb pornography I believe.

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>I would like to add, britain has internet pornography laws also I heard.

Attempted. Failed. There are no meaningful internet porn laws here.

Some US states have done it though.

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The US already adopted the second amendment because of Britain. The tyrannical government that we need to protect ourselves against, that was you.

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My thoughts exactly.

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Oligarchs wanted to usurp monarchy so only they ruled. Their tyranny oppressed the white poor and black people. Only rich white men could vote at that time.

The 2nd amendment was to protect individual state governments from being made defenseless by a president hoping to be would-be dictator. It has nothing to do with gun nut individual hicks. The amendment pertains to well-organized militias which are state-government operated militias when the U.S. had no standing army.

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They forgot to ban all knifes and sharp objects......lol

The number of fatal stabbings in England and Wales is at its highest level since records began more than 76 years ago. - Feb 9, 2023

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But our overall violent crime levels are much lower.

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According to figures, they are increasing:

Has knife crime increased in the UK?

The recent police recorded crime figures published by the ONS showed a 21% increase in the number of knife and offensive weapon offences recorded from 37,706 in year ending September 2021 to 45,639 in year ending September 2022. Feb 16, 2023

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But still miles lower than USA

https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/violent-crime-rates-by-country

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They have five times less of the population.

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It's per capita dude. Statistics obviously log it per 100,000 people.

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We still outnumber you 5:1, and a 21% increase from 2021 to 2022 is beyond insane.

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What does the US having more people have to do with statistics collected on a per capita basis?

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I was not comparing UK to USA in my first response, you went down that road.

I was making a point that having no guns made no difference to crime and violence since they still used knifes and sharp objects.

at its highest level since records began more than 76 years ago. - Feb 9, 2023

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>I was not comparing UK to USA in my first response, you went down that road.

No, but it looked like you were insinuating that instead of gun violence, UK instead just substitutes it with stabbing. Except that even as that is added on, we still have less violent crime.

>I was making a point that having no guns made no difference to crime and violence since they still used knifes and sharp objects.

But our overall violent crime rates are much lower, even if we're beating our own records (for stabbing specifically).

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I was not insinuating, I was saying it. lol

We outnumber you 5:1 and we have more criminals, more mentally ill persons, and a large percentage that also comes from our southern borders like cartels and other types.

Bottom line is that even without guns, something else would be used to commit violent crimes, and in your country, knifes and other sharp objects are the substitutes.

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>I was not insinuating, I was saying it. lol

And you're wrong

>We outnumber you 5:1 and we have more criminals, more mentally ill persons, and a large percentage that also comes from our southern borders like cartels and other types.

You don't seem to understand how statistics work. Crime rates are measured **per capita**. Less people per 100,000 people are victims of violent crime than in the USA. The statistics take into account population differences.

>Bottom line is that even without guns, something else would be used to commit violent crimes, and in your country, knifes and other sharp objects are the substitutes.

And yet we still have less violent crime, proportionately.

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I’m well aware of how “per capita” works.
You are too obtuse to reason with; apparently, you didn’t comprehend "any" of my replies, especially that last one.

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What did I somehow not comprehend? If you understand what 'per capita' means why do you keep bringing up the population differences?

UK has less violent crime overall. We aren't making up for our lack of gun deaths with other things. USA is generally fairly more crime-ridden.

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And I have already explained the reasons, and it is a fact that your countries lack of guns makes no difference in the rising crime and violence committed by knifes and other sharp objects.

Again:

The number of fatal stabbings in England and Wales is at its highest level since records began more than 76 years ago. - Feb 9, 2023

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You haven't explained why you keep referring to USA having 5 times the population, as if it's somehow relevant in this comparison.

>And I have already explained the reasons, and it is a fact that your countries lack of guns makes no difference in the rising crime and violence committed by knifes and other sharp objects.

Right, but we're still much lower than USA. We're starting from a much lower number.

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I seen a Video one time of 30 British cops all scared of one guy with a knife and running around like Benny Hill.....it don't work that good

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Machete man vs. a dozen+ UK cops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mzPj_IaMzY

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Imagine being a fake cop so incredibly sad.

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That's not the one I seen though. The one I seen was a crazed black man with dreads and it was much funnier.

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I saw a video in which armed Texas cops all scared of entering an elementary school as children were slaughtered inside by one guy armed to the teeth by Texas loose gun laws.

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