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So you're literally talking out of your ass now, and can't even back up any of your points with anything besides opinions. >When something is stronger, it's stronger. So if you had a army, it would be the easiest army to beat because you have a one track mind and you'll pick roided out big dudes over actually skilled fighters. Got it. I can beat a stronger opponent in a freakin video game, real life would be even more hilarious. Also here are the last real life videos I've seen of random men vs women/big vs small stuff, and they don't quite match up with your claim. woman vs molestor in elevator https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpBdGy5BIHU here's one where a dude who looks over 300lbs attempts to go all UFC on a small girl and still fails to KO her. Could only imagine the outcome if she actually knew how to fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIbbI0I3WQ4 man vs woman again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCMSsXn6Yr8 big dude vs small dude https://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshht0ien68A8z46NoFU another big dude vs small dude video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxDKRkwyKM0 continued... If I was a scientist, I would think both Michelle and Mackenzie would be a great candidates. Mackenzie seems pretty versatile and adaptable, while Michelle I know has the physical abilities and skills and still seems capable of delivering. Arnold would be out of the question due to his ongoing health issues on top of his lack of combat capabilties. Jackie I would like to think is still a good candidate, but I would question how much he banged up his body over the years. Sam seems somewhat in the middle. > Your points are agreeable and possible, but there's no way a realistic scientist would pick a scrawny woman over a buffed up man for creating a super soldier. Why wouldn't a realistic scientist pick someone like Mackenzie Davis over her male costars for such a treatment? The terminator parts would be doing most of the heavy lifting, and as mention in my other posts, look up the whole calathenics vs weight lifting debate. Even bringing up actors, there's surprises in who is better than who. For example in just Terminator alone big bad Arnold himself admits he rarely does his own stunts, has a long line of health issues including multiple heart surgeries and if you seen Arnold's WWE appearances, it evident he's not a skilled fighter. The original terminator/human hybrid Sam Worthington admits he's not as tough as he looks, and although he likes to do as much of his own stunts as possible, he says he has his limits to what he's capable of pulling off. Mackenzie Davis so far from what I can find had the most gruelling training out of any Terminator actor and for sure had to learn the most skills, and from what I can tell, she nailed it. A lot of the behind scenes footage is actually her doing all the stuff her character does onscreen. It's even more impressive when you consider Mackenzie didn't even have any prior action roles before Terminator. People like Jackie Chan and Jet Li are small dudes, but I doubt anyone is going to deny they aren't physically capable. Speaking of Jackie, the dude admits his costar Michelle Yeoh is his equal physically and some might argue Michelle does crazier things than Jackie. Fast forward today, and I think Michelle actually outlasted Jackie because I can't recall the last film where Jackie had any extensive fight scenes that didn't involve CGI while Michelle did a Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon sequel recently and looks to still be doing her own stunts. >How the hell a weaker and smaller person would be easiern than somebody with more room and power to accept the modifications? First should bring up bigger doesn't always equal stronger and better. Most obvious example are when comparing humans to animals. Many animals are smaller than humans, but a lot of them are more powerful than humans in the physical sense. Even among humans, look up the calathenics vs weight lifting debate. This one is interesting where it involves men and women debating on both sides which is better as it's essentially dancers and martial artists vs body builders. Body builders may have bigger muscles than the dancer/martial artists, but it's amazing how much categories the dancer/martial artist are able to match or surpass the body builder in and there is a science to this. Best known example of calathenics is Bruce Lee. There's actually something extremely ironic too about bigger muscles being conceived as stronger. >Check out Young Frankenstein, that's more realistic than your description: bigger is easier when operating on a person. I'll have to check out that movie, but isn't that a comedy? Not sure how much real world implications it has. I can flip that argument on it's head and say a slimmer person you don't have to cut through as much flesh to get to the bone and nervous system which looks to be where the implants start from. Not to mention all the blood and IV required during surgery. >with all the soldiers around NOBODY had a better body than her? Really? What are using to fight robots? Harsh language? Guns? Explosives? Motor vehicles? That's what it looks like they were all using in the future war scenes in these movies and throughout Salvation. You don't need big muscles to operate those things. Plus you got to be an idiot if you think having big muscles allows you to fight evenly with a terminator. Those things are going to murder a human in meelee combat without any difficulty regardless how big the human is. >it's not a factory trying to get the lowest price possible here. It's doctors and surgeons finding the most effective person to upgrade. Except the doctors and surgeons needs to get the parts from somewhere which I'm guessing is whatever they can scavenge from Legion. So don't see why they would be detracted from using less parts on a smaller individual if it gets the same results. As for most effective person to upgrade? Well one I think the people needs to volunteer first. So that would reduce the number of candidates. Secondly have you seen the future war scene? Grace was able to save the commander and still fight with several stab wounds in her while the rest of her team was dying. That looks like a good person to upgrade. Also seen Cameron's other works? Previous movie he wrote was Alita Battle Angel which had a small female robot tearing up and beating down robots up to 3 times her size in meelee combat in a civilian body no less because she knew a very effective fighting style. Flashback all the way to 1986 for Aliens 2 and we have Ripley and Vasquez doing better against the Aliens than most of their male counterparts. Vasquez even use a gun and harness bigger than what the male soldiers except Drake used just because she can and it didn't hinder her in the slightest. Even Sarah Connor in this movie beat up 3 cops/agents with her hands literally tied behind her back and in T2 needed 4 guards to restrain her and she wasn't even fully focus for that scene either. If I had those 5 women in my army, I think they would all be great candidates to upgrade and Grace would be the biggest of the 5 ironically. So you're ignoring the other 3 meds she mentioned her, huh? As for athletes and their use of insulin. "Insulin is a hormone made by the pancreas that allows your body to use sugar (glucose) from carbohydrates in the food that you eat for energy or to store glucose for future use. <b>Insulin helps keeps your blood sugar level from getting too high (hyperglycemia)</b> or too low (hypoglycemia)." https://www.endocrineweb.com/conditions/type-1-diabetes/what-insulin Insulin is a stabilizer. It works for athletes because when they drain their blood sugar/glucose supply, it pumps more back into their system. Considering Grace a) was trying to get meds that all suppressed her body functions b) her body was literally overheating and she first tried to find water to cool it down, c) as she herself said "my metabolism was tune for short, intense burst" which I'm sure doesn't mean suck up her stamina reserves, and d) she was hyperventilating which usually means cardiac arrest of some sort which is due to the heart pumping too much, e) she has a power core for crying out loud, and I doubt that thing is in her for decorations, it's pretty obvious she needed the insulin for the reason diabetics need it where it wasn't just her blood sugar, but likely a bunch of her organs that was being overwhelmed which usually causes organ failure. >In any case, she was winded after her first fight with the Terminator, and that's a stamina issue, by definition. When was she winded? The only time I recall her slowing down prior to her body crashing was when she was launched out of the truck and temporarily out of it after hitting the pavement. Outside those examples, she pretty much didn't stop. Anyways it's pretty late so I'll have to respond to the rest another day. >Yes, lack of stamina was the problem. The cause of her getting tired out is irrelevant; increased stamina would give extra time before getting tired out regardless of the cause. So you clearly did not watch the movie. Okay here, I'll cite exactly what Grace said she needed and what each meds do: "I need any anticonvulsant" - these are drugs that are stabilizers that helps with calming down epileptic seizures. "sodium polystyrene sulfonate" - these are drugs used to stablize increased potassium level by helping removing them from the body. "insulin" - this is a drug that helps prevents blood sugar levels from getting too high. "benzodiazepine" - basically a form of tranquilizers. Gee notice a pattern here with all these drugs? They're all polar opposite to a caffeine/adrenaline shot which is what would be needed to help get the stamina up. If it was a stamina issue, she wouldn't be needing meds that would drain her stamina even more. Speaking from 1st hand experience as someone diagnosed with a chronic illness back in 2011 with a bad history of taking the wrong drugs afterwards, I know exactly what was going on with Grace during those moments. There's been a number of times I started to suffer from organ failure for any number of reasons. Nothing wrong with my stamina as that was fine, but the pain my body was going through made it hard to even stand up, walk or at times even sit up properly because it will aggravate the problem and cause even worse issues. A number of times I blacking out while standing. So I know there was no problem with my stamina during those moments and everything to do with my body and mind pain threshold being pushed to the limit. I'll answer the rest later. Okay before I respond, how do you make posts longer? For some reason my posts are cut shorter than yours when trying to respond. >This is the second time you've failed to comprehend the "all else being equal" stipulation. There is no "all else being equal" stipulation here. That's what you're failing to acknowledge and grasp. As mentioned earlier, your logic literally relies on there being a infinite amount of resources where everything is built the same. That's the only time your "all else being equal" stipulation can work, and clearly that's not the case in either real life or in fiction. Terminator fiction included. >HKs and Terminators are two completely different types of machines designed for two different applications, i.e., apples and oranges. That's not even close to an "all else being equal" comparison. HKs and Terminators are machines designed with one ultimate goal to kill humans. That's what Skynet designed them all to do in the end. No getting around that. Terminators perform better because Skynet was able to compartmentalize the best of its resources into a small infiltrator unit where there's little room for flaws. Smaller size = less chances for errors to occur and easier to put quality over quantity. >It makes it more believable because males are more effective combat soldiers, as well as more likely to be combat soldiers in the first place, Males are more likely to be combat soldiers because if anything, that just shows how stupid men can be. Men in general being more aggressive of the two genders are more likely to do things like engage in fist fights, drive recklessly, commit crimes, etc for some cheap thrill which is what draws them to being soldiers. Most rational people would know how idiotic it is to be a soldier in today's world especially since that not only means you're likely to get yourself killed than other jobs, but requires you to kill people who never did anything bad to you on top of all the horrible living conditions. A smart person would know that's not a job you should get into unless the threat is literally at your doorstep. You literally wrote two short paragraphs that ultimately says big muscles is somehow a indicator how well terminator parts can work in a human, and I was able to punch a crap ton of holes in it with both facts from the movie and facts from real life. You're the complete idiot who's stubborn. >I wrote off trying to explain anything to him because it is futile, some people are just stupid and too ignorant to be taught anything. You can't even get this right. You literally wrote all of ONE response to me and it's the one I mentioned above paragraph. Unless of course Heisenberg is a alt account of your's, in which case, nice try pretending to be multiple people trying to claim your right. View all replies >