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White people in the 80's


Remember when it was fun to be White?
https://x.com/9mm_smg/status/1788686269330989424

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It's still fun being white. I wouldn't trade it for anything.

Crazy American liberals can lick my hairy bollocks.

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You're still having fun. I'm still having fun. But a lot of White people are not having fun. We got to help'em ditch the White guilt and turn that frown upside down.

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White guilt? 😂😂😂😂

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A lot of White people hate themselves. They feel guilty for being superior to other races. They don't admit it to themselves but that's what they really think. That's why they feel guilty.

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Nah we really don't. Thanks for the laugh though

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Do you speak for all White people?

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I speak for 99.9999% of them who don't feel an ounce of guilt. Anyone with common sense knows that no one has a choice when and where they were born, and what race they were born into.

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So why are so many of them woke?

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Most aren't

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You feel no White guilt and are happy to be White?

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There are clearly white people who dislike themselves, who dislike other white people for being white, and feel guilty about being white.

It's a shame because one thing they've accidentally done is increase the momentum of that by hiding the fact that less than 10% of the global population is white.

Repeat: in 2024, less than 10% of the global population is white.

So, instead of loving themselves, they go around teaching each other they must consider the "minorities" -- forgetting that they ARE a minority!

1. The solution is always more love.
2. More love STARTS with more love to yourself first. (Only after that you can start loving someone else)
3. This applies to all people.. and especially to the people who only represent 9.5% of the global population.



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People's unhappiness in the modern era (specifically white people) is down to alot of things, mental health crisis, social media use, drug use, terrible food we eat, terrible messages from the media, from musicians, actors, telling us we have to get plastic surgery or use ozempic to burn off fat, There are ENDLESS reasons for how unhappy people are now. I would say the main difference between now and the 80s/90s is social media/ the internet.

Endlessly comparing yourselves to other more attractive people on instagram, facebook, etc thinking you have to compete.

Putting it all down to "white guilt".. that's just a gross oversimplification and total cop-out.
Come on, now. I'm white, I don't have "white guilt"..

"White guilt"? Give me a break. That is just a conservative buzzword. They throw that phrase around alot. In specifically right-wing circles. It doesn't actually mean anything.

Like I said, we have a multitude of reasons for our unhappiness in modern society, and we are aware of them all. The economy for one, Which I didn't even mention. But putting it down to "white guilt" is just a weak surmise.

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White Democrats have always been miserable losers.

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This is true. I was miserable until I abandoned the left.

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And that was in California, which was already well aboard the pozz train. In the saner parts of the country, white people were even more genial. It was a completely different, and far, far better country.

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I remember the 80's. It was good times.
I'm not familiar with the term "pozz". Can you explain?

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It comes from the practice of fags purposely infecting themselves with HIV (positive test result = poz) so that they could freely engage in promisuous fag sex without worrying themselves about their partner's HIV status.

In today's slang, it's used to describe a goup of people, an institution, or a landmass (country, region, state, etc.) that has actively embraced all the diseased causes of the left, from blank slate egalitariansim (DEI), to gender, to climate alarmism, and beyond.

For example, the NFL and just about every sportsball league in the world, is completely pozzed. Look at the Buffalo Bills website, every last story on it is a tale of how the franchise is concerned about queers, coloreds, and a host of other most favored victims. It's appalling.

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-to-sponsor-national-gay-flag-football-league-chapter-in-buffalo

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Ah that makes sense. Thanks for explaining. When I first read it I figured it must be some kind of slang term for "progressives", but knowing the etymology makes that much better. I'm going to use it from now on.

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For example, the NFL and just about every sportsball league in the world, is completely pozzed. Look at the Buffalo Bills website, every last story on it is a tale of how the franchise is concerned about queers, coloreds, and a host of other most favored victims. It's appalling.

https://www.buffalobills.com/news/bills-to-sponsor-national-gay-flag-football-league-chapter-in-buffalo

Jesus Christ, there is nothing that they won't ruin. Good thing I don't pay attention to sportsball otherwise I'd have another thing to be upset about. I try to stick to media and politics. There is already plenty to complain about there.

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Did someone hack the Bills' website???

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They were once a football team that played a kids game on Sundays for paying customers. It now appears their existence is predicated on being a combination of Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King.

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Go to the beach

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Which beach?

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The one where you get a tan

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No I mean where is the beech for White people only?

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Proud Boy Beach
You’ll fit right in!

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Wasn't Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, a latinx?

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A cuban black actually. So, yeah, when liberals talk about the proud boys being racist, they are living in la la land.

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I stand corrected. Thank you sir.

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Go to the beach

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The only difference now is you cant lynch the negroes or segregate them or otherwise discriminate.
Also its no longer ok to beat up gay people, or slap women around.

If thats ruined the fun for you you'll get little sympathy

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Mmmm, the heyday of lynching was in the late 1800s. By the 50s, it was down to one or two a YEAR.

This country has had a bi-partisan consensus on equality for blacks since the mid 60s. The young people you saw in the video all grew up, in a culture where anti-black racism was just as taboo as it is today.

So, if something "ruined the fun for us", it's not that.

Want to try again, this time with less being a divisive, race baiting asshole?




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I was only repsonding in kind to whatever the racebaiting asshole in the op was blathering about re "white guilt"

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So, the answer to complaining about white guilt is to lie about the white people of the 80s?

That doesn't make sense.

What don't you like about hearing someone complain about white guilt?

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first off I do not think any white people should feel guilty about slavery , or the treatment of black up until as recently as the sixties

But when people say "white guilt" they are referring to acts of equality they dont like.

"Oh you let black people on the bus now? - you've got White guilt!"

on a slightly different tack , what do think the point of the OP is?
What is he saying about the apparently happy care free 80s?

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"Acts of equality"? Can you give a serious example?

I have to say that that has never been my observation of the use of the term.

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So the starter of this thread isn't race baiting? You realize the starter of this thread only wants whites to be in America right? Remember we can't call that racist or rise we are playing the race card though. Rules for thee not for me.

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Commenting on his perception that white people of the 80s were happier than white people today, I don't see how that is inherently divisive.

How do you imagine that it inflames racial tensions or divides people?

Walk me though your logic, that you think it is.

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Lol remember when it was fun to be white? I'm sure his intent is totally genuine and sincere. Considering his history about only wanting whites in America I sincerely doubt his intentions in posting that were genuine.

Had this been a black person who had a history of that you wouldn't look past that. I am judging him based on his history. Notice how you haven't said one word to him about only wanting whites in America? You don't care so long as whites are the ones being racist.

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So, when I ask you to explain how his post is race baiting, which is what you claimed,


All, you have is what you assume about his intentions based on your perceptions of his history...


You have NOTHING about his actual point, to support your counter claim.


Let me ask you something from a different angle. Do you agree with him that white people in the 80s where happier than white people today?

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It's not an assumption or perception he literally said that's what he wanted. https://moviechat.org/tt12262202/The-Acolyte/6663c441f32efe7c97568ec9/26-audience-score-on-Rotten-Tomatoes?reply=666c80a37040b539935faba4

That is proof he openly said that. Watch you will turn apologetic and attempt to downplay him saying that.

Go ahead deny his own words. I just provided proof of him saying that. Let's see how you handle this. Your response and how you take this will show if you are genuine like you claim. Am I allowed to call what he said racist? Or is that me just playing the race card?

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Why are you so committed to avoiding discussing the topic? What an asshole you are.

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How am I avoiding the discussion? I told you I didn't believe him posting that in the op was genuine. I told you I think he is race baiting. You said all I have is assumptions and or perception. I then provide solid proof of him wanting all blacks and other races deported from the country and that he only wants whites in America. You then say I'm avoiding the topic? Get the fuck out of here! If this was a Democrat or liberal doing this you wouldn't give any credibility to their words. You know I proved you wrong which is why you can't dispute the fact that he is in fact racist. No race card here that guy is a racist scumbag.

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IF, your world, the world you have created for yourself, is such that a racist posting a racist post, is making a TRUE STATEMENT that you dislike but cannot even try to refute,

That is YOU putting yourself in an odd place.


I asked you already if you agree with him, that the white people of the 80s were happier than the white people of today.

You didn't answer me.


He has raised an issue and made a point about it. Attacking HIM, as the messenger is irrelevant to the point he made.

If his point is true, then it is true, no matter who or what he is.




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I think white people of the 50's were happier than white people of today. The economy has a lot to do with the state of happiness. So um yeah can I state that they were happier in the 80s sure but they were happier in the 50s also.

I never said what he said was untrue. I said I don't think he is saying that for s genuine reason. Two things can be true at once.

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So, why the hysteria if you agree with him?

Teh economy? YOu are upset because the economy in the 50s/80s were better than today?

That doesn't make a lot of sense GRift.

Why all the push back on somethiing you agree with the racist on?

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Because as I said he is doing it for a shit reason. You do the same for people on the left that are pretending to talk about things when it's not genuine.

I'm not upset about the economy. I'm upset at him for pretending to be genuine. You are gaslighting dumbass..

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Of course you are not upset about the economy. That is why your previous reasoning was bullshit.

Something about his point bothers you, but you are afraid to say it.

I think that you agree with the racist, both on the whites then being happier, and AS TO THE REASON they are less happy today.

The only difference is that the racist is willing to be honest about the reason and to be honest about his position and his reason for opposing that cause,


while you are not willing to be honest.

Because you are fine with the white today being unhappy. You are happy to support policies that you know are harmful to them, but you are not willing to be honest about that, and defend your positions seriously and honestly.

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What previous reasoning? That I said he said it for not genuine reasons? Yeah nope my point on that is still consistent.

The point doesn't bother me, the reason he is posting about it bothers me. He is doing it with ulterior motives. You know it and I know it.

Nope bullshit. I don't support don't policy which is harmful to anyone. That's rich coming from a guy who supports the drug war. Comical irony alert!

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What is the reason that you and the racist agree on?

Come on. It's not the economy. That would not explain your level of ire.

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How am I supposed to know that? I don't have the ability to read minds. However I am not dumb. He is not stating that point for a genuine reason. There is some sort of ulterior motive behind him doing that.

I am angry because morons like you are too stupid to see through it. If a liberal stated something like this with some sort of agenda you wouldn't hesitate to call them on it. With this clown you say nothing.

Which goes back to rules for thee not for me.

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1. Because he is pointing to a real issue. Since the issue is a real issue, you can both look at the issue and see and understand it. No mindreading, simply seeing gthe same issue and agreeing on what it is. He, like you, know the reason for the unhappiness. He is being coy because he wants to start a conversation on the issue and he knows that it will lead people to the reason. YOU agree with him on that too. Which is why you are engaging in "attacking the messenger". To STOP people from having a discussion on the issue.

2. I would be fine with a liberal starting such a discussion. Hell, I would WELCOME it, a liberal being coy trying to start a serious discussion of a real issue. Vastly superiour to the shit talk most libs do.

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No wrong I don't know if I agree with him on the issue. I believe he has a hidden agenda for posting that. Also no he believes whites are the superior race. He thinks if whites having dominion over other races makes them happier then it should be applied. So um yeah no we don't agree on the reason.

Bullshit. Fuck off with your lies you deceitful piece of shit.

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1. So, stop being coy. Clearly state what you think his "hidden agenda" is and how it relates to the decline in white people happiness.

2. There is nothing about anything I have ever said or done on this site, that would support your assumption that I would have a problem with a lib trying to start a conversation on an issue. That you think so, is.... merely a manifestation of how you DON'T THINK, at all.

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Lol I'm good. I don't give two shits to share with you what it is. You don't care about my reason. Just like how you didn't care about me proving he was a racist piece of shit. I proved he was racist and you dismissed it. I see how you handle proof. That was a test and you failed it. Concede that I proved he was racist and then we can proceed.

Yeah nope. You had no intent on discussing the drug war when I brought that issue up. You clam up and dismiss any discussion regarding that. Then you get mad when people don't support something that targets a specific group yet are fine with the drug war. The drug war targets poor folks more so than it does rich people and you are perfectly ok with that. So I don't care to hear your bullshit on playing victim about your group being targeted when you don't give a shit about others.

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1. His racism, is your attacking the messeger. You attacked the messenger becasue you are afraid of his message.

2. Your inability to think past your own assertions is incredible. I don't know if you are seriously that...fucked in the head or if it is part of your gaslighting. Either way, i have though of a way to test it. Would you like to? If you say yes, I will PM you my idea.

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Nope I just don't buy his reasons for bringing up the message. His reasons have an agenda behind them. They aren't genuine.

I would like to discuss the drug war. I want you to honestly debate me. Not run away from facts and answer questions honestly.

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1. His reasons? I don't recall him mentioning his reasons. Of course his reasons have an agenda behind them.

2 What a dumbass you are. I will pm you as I said. You dumbass.

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He doesn't have to mention his reason to draw up it's for some sort of agenda. I believe the agenda has malice behind it. I have good grounds to think that considering his proven racism.

You are a dipshit.

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Except, he believes that a discussion of the issue, will lead people to find and agree with HIS view of the problem and his solution.

That implies, very strongly that he believes that his views and his solutions are the best ones for the people reading, that if they understand them, that the readers will agree with him.

YOU, on the other hand, are trying, and succeeding in shouting him down with your little hissy fit, to PREVENT discsussion.

Which implies that you are AFRAID of any discussion of the issue. Becuase you are afraid that if people understand the issue that they will disagree with YOUR position on the issue and YOUR answer to it.

Which puts YOU in the position of the one operating from "malice".


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And what's his solution? Oh yeah to deport all other races from America except white people. It's a form of gaslighting that you are too dumb to see. So no I just see through the bullshit. You think a racist is being genuine is what I find funny.

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You oddly skipped over the cause of the unhappiness.

You also did nothing to address explain why you think that he is wrong about his view of the cause.

I think it is because you AGREE with him on the cause of the unhappiness.

You are afraid to discuss it, for fear that your own words will lend credibility and support to the racist.

And yes, he is clearly being sincere in his beliefs, while you are not.

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Nope we went over this before. The economy has a huge impact on mental health and happiness obviously. Whites in the 50's were happier also why is that?

I didn't attack the view I attacked the reason he is posting. Sorry man you aren't going to trip me up I was clear in what I said. You are angry because you can't dispute him being a racist. So now you are attempting to discredit the reason I think he posted about that topic.

Something can be true no matter who it comes from. But... You can see if someone is pointing out for genuine reasons or if it's an attempt to gaslight.

No I wouldn't say he's being sincere. See how that works? You just completely waved reasonable doubt of his reasons. He has a past history of being racist yet you don't question his reasons. That's scary dude. Seek help.

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The economy is not the reason that he or you are thinking of.

Your cowardice is very sad.

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Lol and you thinking his reasons are genuine is cowardly of you. That guy is a racist piece of shit and I proved it.

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How is it cowardly of me? That makes no sense.

And if he is racist, what does that say about you, who agrees with him?

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And by that logic you agree with him also. Again I attacked his reasons not the point. Get the fuck out of here! It's cowardly because you know deep down his reasons are not genuine.

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I repeatedly stated that I agreed with you both.

You are afraid to discuss the reason because you don't want to fix the problem.

He wants to fix the problem.


Why would I think his reason is not genuine?



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No I am not. I just know his reasons are not genuine as I originally stated.

He wants to fix the problem? Yeah that's why he wants all blacks or races other than whites gone from America. I proved he stated that. Yet you think he wants to fix the problem? Wow this is a new low even for you. Go fuck yourself.

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Correct. He wants to fix the problem. He wants white people to be happy like in the 80s.

What do YOU want?

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I want all races to be happy not just one. So what's his solution genius? He said he wants all other races gone from America. I'd that the solution you agree with?

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What is the problem that made white people unhappy?

And don'tt be a pussy. It isn't the economy. You wouldn't be having such a hissy fit if it was about economics.

Be honest, if you can.

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You won't answer my question but want yours answered. What's his solution to making whites happy? Be honest now. See you are afraid to be honest about what his solution would be. That's because you know deep down it's a racist one.

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You already gave his answer repeatedly, ie deport all black people. So.... why are you asking me?

I'm certainly not afraid to be honest about whatt you say his answer would be. It is irrelevant to me whether or not it is racist.

It is just that it is stupid to argue about solutions when you are afraid to say what hte problem is.

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You said he wants a solution! Yeah a racist one you braindead dipshit.

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Correct. He wants a solution to the problem.

You dont.

But, you both agree on what the problem is.

That's very telling.

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No I do. I want all races to exist in harmony he does not.

I listed my solution you ignored it. Also so you are saying a racist solution is better than none? Am I hearing you right?

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1. Do you support reparations?

2. I'm saying he wants a solution to the problem, thus sincere, while you want the problem to remain unaddressed and people to keep suffering, but you are not honest about that. THus, malicious.

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I have a solution and you ignored it. You are the one who doesn't support reparations.

Improve the economy for everyone. You ignored that. Also and his solution isn't malicious? I want the drug war to stop and I want people to keep suffering? No that's your thing buddy.

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1. So, was the NO you do not support reparations?

2. The economy is not the problem, so, that's simply you evading the discussion you are so afraid of.

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I do for all races not just whites like you.

The economy is a big part of the problem. You are full of shit.

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1. You're talking nonsense to avoid moving the discussion forward. Because you afraid of being honest.

2. The economy is not why you are having a hissy fit. It is not why you are afraid. What is the problem that you and the op agree is the problem?

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Nope. You asked a question and I answered it. Move on..

Nope the point stands the economy was better back in the 80s.

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1. I asked a question to show that you were not seroius about having all races live together. Your answer was a dodge, becuase you do not actually support that. If you are correct about the op, neither does he. Mmmm...


2. You are lying.

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Nope I answered it. You didn't like my answer. Move onto your next pont I answered it already. You are the one stalling the conversation.

Lol no it's a fact the economy was better back then. That point stands.

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There has been no conversation.

You have shit all over the thread to avoid the topic.

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Correct because you want to stall the conversation. I answered the question. Move onto your point or concede.

Nope that's what you have done by not moving forward.

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My point is that you and the racist agree on the problem, and he is sincere about it and you are not.

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You don't need to support reparations in order to hold to the idea that all races should live in harmony.

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Actually my point was that supporting reparations is demonstrating complete and total hostility to the idea of living in harmony. That is why the other lefty dodged the question. Because he knows that.

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Has Grifter said he supports reparations>

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You can see that he dodged the question.

That was his answer. He saw my trap and refused to answer out of fear and cowardice.

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Nope actually I answered it. This is you being deceptive.

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https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/6674cc3c21c7f60be98cee1f/White-people-in-the-80s?reply=667aed19596e557a87a6c61e

Actually I did answer it. He is lying abd said I didn't. See how deceptive he is? There is the proof I answered.

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"What is the problem that made white people unhappy?"
Are you getting him to confirm what you know
or actually asking?
are white people unhappy?
I for one dont really know wht the OP is talking about , becasuse as was pointed oput to me the race relations of Black and white is pretty much the same then and now .


but look at this little exchange from earlier , what does thta tell us?

Yatzo: Go to the beach

[–] curiousMInd101 (1015) 4 days ago
Which beach?

[–] Yatzo (1522) 4 days ago
The one where you get a tan

[–] curiousMInd101 (1015) 4 days ago
No I mean where is the beech for White people only?


i think basically the new troll in town threw some outrageous race baiting up , and you two are arguing about its validity

i mean look at the post below :
"It has ruined the fun. With no lynchings, what are me an the boys supposed to do on the weekends?"

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I think the implication of the op, as supported by grifthunter, is that race relations have gotten WORSE, since the 80s,

and I would have to agree.

THe op might be a troll who has run off. But Grifthunter is a troll who is staying here, BECASUE HE MOSTLY AGREES WITH THE OP.

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Oh wow I'm not the only who thought he was race baiting? Wow go figure! Get wrecked you deceitful asshole.

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Nope I mentioned a sincere reason. You not liking my reason does not mean my reason wasn't sincere.

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Correct.
Your stated reason was false to distract from the fact that you want the actual reason to remain unaddressed, that you do not want to solve the problem.

Thus your intention was insincere.

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My point stands. And no my intent was sincere. I don't give a shit if you believe it of not. The point stands, the economy was better back then.

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Your stonewalling is noted.

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Your denial is noted. So how many times have I beaten you now? I defeated you and proved you Aliens was woke, I proved the op was racist, I actually answered your questions and proved you wrong there.

Let's debate the drug war and I will have no issue knocking your ass out on that issue also. You seem to think the 80s had no issue and that Reagan had no flaws. You realize things he said about other races right?

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Your ability to talk shit is noted.

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Your denial is noted again. Reagan was not some saint by the way. He like all of them had his dirt also.

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Did I say ANYTHING about Reagan?

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Well you glamorize the 80's so much I figured he was relevant. I love how I proved that Aliens was woke and you couldn't refute it. That was hilarious. Either way I love seeing you exposed whether it's by me or anyone else with half a brain on these boards.

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It is strange the way you are unable to stay on topic.

And by strange, I mean you just throw shit at the wall like a retarded monkey.

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You ignore things constantly. The point stands I gave the reasons as to why whites were happier. You just didn't like my reason. You are stonewalling.

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Your "Reasoning" is just you dismissing counterpoints you don't like.

And stonewalling on that, like a brainless turd.

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I answered when you said I didn't. That's a lie.

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Blah, blah, blah.

You talk, but you are not really engaging in any real dialog.

It's like talking to a bot. A dumb bot.

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Lol and I'm the one stonewalling? I answered, you didn't like the answer.

You are an insecure deadbeat who I bet has nothing go on in life.

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Your answer made no sense in this context.

You choose to not engage in discussion yet you still want to talk.

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No it did make sense you just didn't like it. Anything you don't like doesn't make sense to you.

Even if that were true which it isn't but even if it were I gave an answer. So your claim I didn't answer was a lie on your end.

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You're cleary not interested in a conversation so....

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When you blatantly lie no.

Let's not lie and go from there. Sound good? So back to the original point. The guy's reason for posting the op was not genuine. He was race baiting.

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Your excuse for your shit behavior is noted and dismissed.

It is worth noting that your post is an implicit admission that your beahvior has been shit.



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Lying is shit behavior also. So you can do shit behavior but no one else can? Nice logic there.

The point stands you lied when you said I didn't answer.



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Thank you for admitting your shit behavior.

YOur answer was not a real answer, not in the context of this thread.

You want to whine like a fag about the posters intent or call it race baiting?

I tried to get you to discuss his reasons, you refuse to.

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Nope it was an answer you didn't like. I don't give a shit if you like it, it was an answer.

I appreciate you admitting to lying. It shows growth.

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YOur bullshit spin is noted and dismissed.

i see you only mentioned the race baiting of the op as shit talk, no real follow up even when prompted.

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No spin. You lied and can't dispute it. You are lying again.

I did follow up. He is racist and thinks whites are superior. I proved that.

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Explain how just mentioninng that whites are unhappy is "Race baiting".

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Because what's the intent behind it? Is he honestly doing it for a genuine discussion? Or his he trying to rile up a fire and piss people off? Given his history I think that it is rather obvious what he is doing. If it was coming from a genuine person I would believe it's a genuine reason in his case I don't feel it's genuine. He's a racist.

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I do think it was a genuine attempt at discussion. I think he thinks that a real and honest debate on the issue of WHY whites are now less happy, would be one that would support his agenda.

I think you think that too. Which is why you are so resistant to such a discussion.

YOu saying he is "racist" is not you saying he is wrong. He could be racist and he could be right about this issue.




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No you don't, I call bullshit. You only question antics when it's done by people you personally don't like. An honest debate? He thinks whites are superior to other races, he thinks only whites should exist in America and everyone else should be deported.

You think someone of that mindset is going to debate honestly? The only thing he wants to hear is they are less happy because blacks and others fucked up their lives. You know that's what his endgame is and are too cowardly to admit that. I can debate all day on why whites are less happy. He only wants one narrative which is the one I mentioned. In one of the early responses he says whites feel guilty for being superior to other races. Yeah that's someone who really wants an honest discussion right?

Not talking about if he's right on the issue. My original point was his reason for bringing it up was antagonistic. You and I both know that. Don't play dumb.

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It has ruined the fun. With no lynchings, what are me an the boys supposed to do on the weekends?

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I’ve always played disc golf, an everyman’s game. Give it a go!!

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It's still fun to be white and have 0 regret and take pride in laughing at people who do in 2024

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I know. The sad woke White people are missing out. And they are ruining the vibe for the rest of us.

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White people still have it the easiest in the West. They're the ones with political and social power.

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And Chinese have power in China, Indians in India, Africans in Africa, Hispanics in most of South America, etc. What's your point? Furthermore, in none of the above have the native stock willingly abandoned power structures to the extent that Europeans have in their own lands.

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Those countries you mentioned are not as free, rich, or diverse as the West is, though.

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And guess how free and rich the West will be after we allow this diversity into our lands?

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Not anymore. White people are constantly demonized in this country and "people of color" have all the privileges. In Chicago, the Mayor is even talking about eliminating taxes for just people of color because of systemic racism or something.

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You have to be REALLY insane to believe that.

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White people still have it the easiest in the West. They're the ones with political and social power


People tend to hold political & social power in the countries they build and maintain, and whose ancestors have lived in for a thousand plus years.

It's minorities who have it easiest in the west, considering if they were minorities in China, Pakistan or Saudi Arabia then they wouldn't get away with all the things they do here.

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What's "white"? I'm Irish-Indigenous. Is how I look more important than my actual ancestry? If we do away with the notion of "white", "black", etc., particularly since it's immaterial once looking beneath the surface genetically, it can't be a thing anymore. Let's endeavor to take their power away from them, or at the very least stop feeding them more. Starve them, and they'll wither away.
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Nah, I want to preserve what it means to be Irish. I want to preserve what it means to be indigenous. By mixing these two you are diluting the bloodline. If everyone did this, all races would disappear. We would all just be mystery meat. That may sound appealing to progressives but not to me. I think races are precious. Ironically, it's the diversity that I like. This is real diversity. separate races living separately. Where we can all admire each other's peoples and cultures. Where we can visit each other's lands and see something different and have our own land for our people that others can visit and experience. The progressive idea of diversity destroys all that. It will make every land the same. It will make all the people the same. That is not a world I want to live in.

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That's trying to prevent the inevitable. For example, many "Irish" have Scandinavian markers due to ancient Vikings injecting their genetics into the population long ago. Genetically speaking, some are barely distinguishable. Preserving "Irish" isn't about genetics. It's about culture. In fact, genetically speaking, the more diverse the healthier. The further away we get from inbreeding, the better off we are as a species. I get your inclination and don't completely disagree, but it has little to do with genetics. It's culture.

And to really boil it down to a foundation that applies to just about everything: it's about subverting naturally occurring entropy and maintaining civilization, language, etc. standards. Entropy produces needless change and chaos, while a framework of standards, introducing change in a measured, thoughtful manner only when beneficial, sustains stability. But constraining ourselves genetically only hurts us in the long run. From a genetics perspective, humans are already a mere 1% of what we once were due to ancient catastrophes that nearly wiped us out. Why further constrain ourselves by forcing the coalescing of genetic abnormalities?

it's never a good idea to put all your eggs into one basket, so to speak.
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You can do your part by moving to Ireland.

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Race doesn't exist beyond the level of skin pigmentation?

So where are all the white sprinters? Where are all the black inventors? Where are...oh, forget it, you'll believe what you're programmed to believe because it flatters you to think we're all the same, requires no effort on your part. Meanwhile, sub-Saharan Africans have average IQs two standard deviations below Ashkenazi Jews, East Asians, and northern Europeans. Go ahead, ask those Africans to design, build, and pilot an airplane for you. Bon voyage!

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Race doesn't exist beyond the level of skin pigmentation?"

Is that really what you perceived from my words? Nay, I said the exact opposite.

I'd suggest you read my post again. You processed it through your own preconceptions instead of actually attempting to comprehend what you were reading. To sum it up, race isn't about skin color (which is a byproduct, not a progenitor). It's about many other factors that although sometimes can correlate, just as often do not i.e. don't judge by skin color. Assess by the very items you just listed yourself, based partially on ancestry alongside measurable, observable behaviors and performance. Assuming purely off skin color is folly. Although of similar shade as many people dubbed as "white", my talents and skills vary greatly from others with a similar outward appearance. Skin color means nothing. Purge preconceptions and judge only by individual achievement.

What I was in fact suggesting is that we stop grouping people by "white", "black", etc. and instead use actual genetic and cultural quantifiers. You know, the stuff that actually makes us who we are. Don't fall into the traps the progressive far Left set. And for criminy's sake let's stop giving them power they don't otherwise have. Same goes toward the opposite end of the spectrum.

I was a very fast sprinter in high school, by the way, breaking several records. My endurance has always been horrendous. This is because I have a much higher naturally occurring percentage of fast-twitch muscle fibers (power and speed) over slow-twitch (endurance). Even if less common in "whites", being "white" comes nowhere close to describing me. It has no real meaning. Let's instead start using measures that reflect real-world impacts on reality: deep, complex genetics and culture.

"White" vastly oversimplifies a highly diverse genetic representation to the point of absurdity and detriment. "White" means nothing and contributes no value to any discussion regarding genetic-based differences. What does have value is the specific genetic matrix of each individual. It may be possible to loosely group based on that (although why do that?), but skin color is irrelevant.
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It appears that it's human nature to group people and then discriminate.

Religion, region, language, political ideology, etc. are used for excuses to hate in places where only one race exists.

Furthermore, people may be wired differently. According to research, liberals are comfortable with diversity, debate and freedom. Conservatives are uncomfortable with diversity while enjoying homogeneity, rules and order.

No coincidence that most police and soldiers are conservative while most artists are liberal.

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Explain why Europeans killed 6 million Ashkenazi Jews during the Holocaust!

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What does that have to do relative IQs?

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What did they do with the 6 million bodies?

If you provide a single link or quote, I will dismiss it as lies or propaganda.

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