After Biden"s debate performance made his mental decline clear, and the current unlikelihood that he's going to be replaced, the Dems will see putting Trump in prison as their best, last-ditch effort to defeat him in the election.
I think yatzo is being disingenuous. He knows it was a rigged process and he would be complaining non stop about weaponization of the justice system had this been Brandon instead of Trump.
It's like when the video showed Trump clearly stating that nazis were not fine people and the lefties all watched it, and insisted that he said the opposite.
And literally all they have to run on is “Trump is worse”. Make no mistake this campaign is going to get nasty and the left is going to outdo themselves in how low they are willing to stoop.
They have been lying so much about Biden being ok, and now those lies have been exposed.
What else can they do but double down and just try to lie harder?
They CAN'T just take the L. THey've convinced themselves that Trump is hte next Hitler, or at least they have established that as such a... dogma, that they have to pretend they believe it, so...they have to try to fight though this to a win.
I agree, the Democrats are like a cult now, a very evil and eve try radical cult. They will never go against their cult no matter what the facts are. It’s really scary.
I can't wait till we get the new polls, and the pressure on the dems to deal with this issue, really starts to increase.
There is no clear way forward. Healthy people would think, come up with an possible solution and then try to make a case to their group about why it is the better answer.
They have not been doing that, for years, decades maybe. They have no ability to think or address problems, seriously or honestly.
Every single day politicians lie to us (the sheeple). They especially enjoy lying to their supporters, even your convicted orange overlord felon lies every single day to his ignorant followers/mind slaves. By lying to us (the sheeple) every single day, the politicians are able to gain and/or remain in power.
There was a rally in charlottesville, organized by a group of white supremacists and neo-nazis. Their advertising was misleading and appealed to mainstream Americans who support the historical statues mostly commemorating Confederate veterans remaining up instead of being taken down.
There were a large number of COUNTER PROTESTORS, who were expected to be violent and the local dems ordered the cops to stand down to allow the outnumbered original protestors to be attacked violently.
The w.s. were ready and fought back, the violence escalated to the point of a woman being killed/dying.
In the after math the initial consensus was to dogpile the supporters of the statues as w.s and violent thugs and blame them and continue the push for take down all the historical statues and to maintain the narrative of America as a racist, indeed, White Supremacist society.
TRUMP did not follow that script. He correctly pointed out that the Counter protestors were the ones to initiate violence and that both sides were fighting.
He condemend BOTH the violent w.s. and the violent lefties that attacked them.
He called for all Americans to unite in condeming racial violence and racism as having no place in our society.
That was the TRUTH of the matter.
yatzo, we are seven years late, but better late than never.
At this point in time, since the left has FINALLY admitted the truth about what he said,
will you personally join in with me and Trump in denoucing racism and racial violence from both sides, ie the fringe neo-nazis, and the far left radicals?
There was a riot. A woman died. Trump's response was to denouce racist violence from nazis and marxist fringe both.
Do you agree with Trump and me that the racist violent nazis and marxist do not have a place in mainstream American society, and republicans and dems are or should be united against them both?
Question: What do you think would have happened, if the media had presented his words, correctly and we as a nation had that conversation seven years ago?
I dont think anything would be much different
Reps & dems do agree on that , they havent really "had that conversation" but even if they had these groups would still exist.
The groups would still exist, sure. But they would not be part of the mainstream and everyone would know it.
Doesn't that sound like a big step forward in American race issues?
After all, what really happened was that the nation was told that the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES was a guy that thought that some nazis were "very fine people".
How do you think that made black people feel? Or jewish people?
Yatzo, serious question. Will you join me and Trump is rejecting racial violence and racism from both sides and unite our society against the right and left fringe?
Because I don't think it's genuine. If it was genuine you would have called out racism against the op I talked about. You did not do it even once I proved it. So forgive me for being suspicious of you.
Not talking about Trump. Why did you refuse to call the op out on his racism once I proved it?
Yeah I would like to see Americans unite. I don't believe you are for that though. You don't even call out blatant racists on here. Well unless it's against whites.
Because the issue that hte man was trying to get to, was a valid issue.
Regardless of whether or not he is racist.
You and others like you seem to think that caling someone racist means that any issues or complaints become invalid.
That is simply not true.
Now, violence leading to deaths, that is a bit more... impactful.
IMO, such violence, the groups that were responsible for it in charlottesville, ie the nazis and the radical lefties,
do need denouced. It is worth doing so, that we as a society can marginalize those that would use violence as a response to political speech they do not like.
But... His reasons were not genuine like you claimed. You claimed he was debating in good faith. I proved that to be false by his responses.
I didn't just call him a racist I proved he was. His points were invalid. He thinks whites shouldn't feel guilt because they are the superior race. Is that a valid point?
Radical right wing need to be dealt with also. Everyone includes them as well you partisan hack.
This thread is about one of, imo, Trump's best moments as President when he responded to a national tradgedy with a call for national unity against racist violence from both nazis and the far left.
My posting of this and repeating his call for unity against racist violence from nazis and the far left,
has led you to attack me.
The obvious conclusion to draw is that you support racist violence from one or both of the parties mentioned, and you do support one or both of them being part of the political mainstream.
The vast majority of racism and violence in society today is from the left.
In this case, there was voilence from the right, from the nazis, and Trump called them out, denounced them repeatedly and called for America to unite against them.
And I supported him at the time, despite peoople like you fighting him on that.
Indeed, i have a thread running now where I am pushing that same anti-nazi, anti-racist message.
I also don't believe you called out the right for that at the time it was happening. You are simply now attempting to paint Trump as a good person.
I call out racism no matter where it's from. You let the right slide on anything. You have shown that by willing to let a racist race bait and be an apologist for him. So no you are wrong and deep down you know it.
I didn't attack Trump I attacked you and said I don't believe you call out racism on your end. You are gaslighting in an attempt to make it look like you call out violence on your end now. I bet my entire bank account you didn't call this out when it happened.
I don't actually. I would like to, but I don't have faith in partisan folks like yourself. This goes for partisan liberals also. You guys aren't worth trusting.
Yeah by a court full of Trump haters, sure sounds like a fair process. Would you have been fine with Hunter being tried in a district in Alabama where Trump won 99.7% of the vote?
Doesnt matter. This needs to be looked at through unbiased eyes in order to analyze whether you are on the left or right. Trump must be portrayed as the victim or underdog in an unjust system. Its a ruse of course but give people the notion that it is through divine intervention when Trump is reinstalled again. This is all just part of the deception or sales pitch to stear peoples choice towards an outcome that has already been decided while giving the illusion that the selection has been done by the populace which is to be tricked into this New World by free will not force. This is Luciferianism doctrine 101. You are responsible for YOUR choices under this principle of Luciferianism but they are allowed to trick and influence you. This allows them to be relived of Karma and put the responsibility of the direction to the new world on us because in their mind we "Do this to ourselves".
Luciferian Doctrine ...
"Free Will and Personal Responsibility Are Primary. Each person is responsible for their own fate, which is determined by his or her own talents and efforts. Finding ways around life's roadblocks is an expected part of life for Luciferians, and overcoming them is cause for pride and happiness. They are also expected to accept any unhappiness that arrives due to the bad choices they make."
Thats just a snippet but should give people an idea. Anyone familiar with theology would benefit from revisiting Barabbas. Barabbas was a prisoner mentioned in all four Gospels who was chosen by the crowd, over Jesus Christ. Barabbas wanted to take Rome by force and the "Mob" chose him over Jesus Christ. Trump is that modern day symbol of Barabbas that the Occult have put before Americans in this Agenda. Clever as always is the serpent. Not meant to be bible thumping but its important to understand the counterfeiting of scripture that is taking place right in front of everyones eyes by our "Rulers".
Yes, it's sad, but ALL of this is manufactured. If they want to reinstate Trump they will. It was glaringly obvious that Biden was thrown purposely under the bus at the debates the other night. I'm not sure what "they" will gain by putting Trump back in office, but it seems like they are going to do just that. Unless, they have someone else they want to install waiting in the wings, and THAT would cause a lot of chaos.
We have to enter the New Luciferian World Order by free will. For that it takes a salesman. "Art of the Deal" type stuff. The left is the boogieman in all this as is low level Satanism. Think of Luciferianism as a pretty way to seduce people into full blown Satanism. At the top that all Luciferianism is anyways but its difficult to convince people to take that pledge when they think its to Satan/Lucifer. Hence why they hide it behind Bailey's "Love and Light" New ageism which has not completely taken over the MAGA right and become "Christ Like". Their "Christ" is Lucifer. That is a Freemason belief.. which is Luciferian.
People need to at least "TRY" to do the work and figure this stuff out. Here.. Step 10 is Dominionism which is what MAGA and Trump is pushing. This "appearance" of conflict is all optics to deceive mankind in the greatest deception of all time.
"Before a reappearance of "The Christ" is possible. All entrenched forces of Entrenched Evil (Christians) must be routed (PURGED) ." - Alice Bailey - The Reappearance of The Christ (Refer to Dominionism and Noahide Law to understand their "Purge")
"The present cycle (1945-2025) (…) is called technically "The Stage of the Forerunner". It is preparatory in nature, testing in its methods, and intended to be revelatory in its techniques and results." - Alice Bailey - The Externalization of the Hierarchy, p.530.
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." - David Spangler's - "Reimagination of the world"
I know this stuff is confusing if its new but people need to start putting in the work. Theres not much time left to figure this stuff out. Its not that hard but you have to block political and even religious bias. Its analytical skills and critical thinking along with knowing thy enemy. The info is all available.
Who should be credited here with the quoted words btw? Isn't the Luciferian Doctrine consistent with what is said in the bible as well though? It appears to be the deal that God gave man after the consumption of the Fruit Of The Knowledge Of Good And Evil. Is your claim that the Bible such as it is is not a divinely inspired document but something far more evil? Just questions here- I have no skin in the theological game.
No worries. Its hard to go into all the details on this in such a limited format. It can go a couple different ways.
The Occult Has counterfeited biblical prophecy by inverting it. Lucifer is Christ and Jesus is actual the Antichrist. Basically everything is reversed like a mirror. This meshes with Bailey and her channeling of "Entities" in the early 1900s where this "plan" or IMO strategy was published from Lucifer Publishing AKA Lucis Trust. Under this plan they basically hijack the Word of God. Where it works to deceive their own inside the Hive/Pyramid is fundamental belief that Lucifer is Christ. This is Satanic deception of course. Go high enough into the rituals of Luciferian Freemasonry and its blatant Satanism but thats a hard sell. Better to promote false light or "Illumination" or "Enlightenment".. hence the Illuminati was a rebranding of the Synagogue of Satan. Always deception.
The other route is the entire Bible would be make believe and Jesus Christ a story for day one. Illuminati bloodlines are ancient and pre Christ. Could they pull that master trick.. Yes. These are the controllers of our world. Disciples of the Occult. Did They? Ive worked that angle and do buy it. They have been trying to hijack and destroy Jesus Christ the whole time by working in the shadows, infiltrating EVERYTHING, Inverting everything etc. If anything I believe the actions and plans of the Occult/Illuminati/Synagogue of Satan only further prove the reality that Jesus Christ is Real. Jesus Christ also doesn't lie. He basically gives it to people straight without deception. Kind of the original "truther".
The question with researchers and scholars of both the Bible and the Occult is why does God allow them to do what they do. The idea there is that God uses the Occult to work and fulfill his own plan. Could be true. IDK for sure. I have to stay grounded and have always had a more street smart approach to the occult.
Sorry Sparky this forum has short room for posting.
Anyways streetsmart approach. The Occults power is only as strong as their deception. Thats why its silly to me when people think knowing the info about the occult is somehow living in fear. They never learned that the TRUTH sets you free. I dont fear for myself but I do get concerned for those deceived or worse.. in denial. Denial of the Occult or choosing blissful ignorance is an extremely selfish self serving attitude. Its also "Sloth" which is a gateway sin IMO and can take you right down the path into Luciferianism. The 7 Sins is a strategy the Occult uses to pull people away from the teachings of Jesus Christ. That has always been the case. Insider meeting with the top of the Illuminati has a lot of exchanges about SIN. How Sinful "WE" are. How "WE" are selfish, Greedy etc. Of course they exclude themselves and claim the responsibility for being sinful is only with us. This excludes themselves in their belief under Luciferian Doctrine. No Karmic Retribution. No Punishment from their "god" Lucifer/Satan.
Dont forget THEY dont think they are the evil of this earth. They believe the followers of Jesus Christ are. In their mind it is the followers of Jesus Christ that have hijacked THEIR Bible. Its a CULT. A Hive mind where any notion of self or individualism is crushed. Ive told Luciferians before that they are even frauds under their own false Doctrine. Lucifer was an individual that rebelled against God. Evil but also an individual. However at the same time following Lucifer at its core requires Hive Mind Obedient followers. This makes Lucifer/Satan a Fraud even to himself. A Lier and a thief. Far from being any sort of "God". He pretends to be god and his followers support that notion through many different things. Silly nonsense with props, rituals, bloodlust, deviant sexual behavior is just programming.
If they so much as attempt to put this man in prison for 1 hour, then he wins in a landslide in November and it's enough he's going to win anyway barring any shenanigans like in 2020, but this really would cement this
Sure they have to sell it. Trumps "persecution". He needs to be the underdog. Then when he is reinstalled it will be a "miracle" and from the hand of "god". Problem is that "god" is a false one and not Jesus Christ.
Trumps in either way. His part in this was cemented On Sol Invictus 2009 when he had his meeting with Soros. That was after he went around telling everyone how great Obama was BTW. Also after he played professional wrestler for the WWE.
People dont pay attention. Most dont even know Trump is a Freemason. Not part of their "club" my rear. Freemasonry is the worship of Lucifer as Christ. Everyone knows that. When did the entire American Populace be reduced to the IQ level of the average WWE fans? Like them they dont realize they are watching a staged event..SHOW.
Trump is certainly no stranger to belittling attacks. But it seems like the Dems are preaching off his methods. They are giving him a taste of his own medicine and trying to disguise as him being a pure evil monster. At best, he's really just a bumbling fool who is a bit too self-opinionated. They are demonizing his flaws
If they so much as put this man in prison for even 1 Hour, he not only wins in a super landslide, but they risk starting civil unrest over it and all because they got their feelings hurt with their guy performing abysmally at the debate and took a Mike Tyson 90 second knockout beating from Trump who simply came across stronger & more presidential and sorry it hurts feelings around here, but tough shit