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Well okie dokie -I'm not a physicist - LOL and since I'm not, I won't even attempt to debate what you just said. But, from your viewpoint are you stating you believe some version of Kyle was always John's father or something else? Because if you are saying that a "Kyle" always traveled back to father John, then to my very unscientific mind, that seems like a loop.
Well looks like we are in agreement about T1 and the biggest problem I have always had with T2 is exactly how the T1000 was sent back when Kyle said the time machine was destroyed? However, how would Kyle have known for certain that really happened after he left? There is always the possibility that it wasn't destroyed or there was a second time machine allowing more terminators to be sent back through time. Just a possibility and better in my mind than just leaving it hanging. T2 would have been a little more satisfying if that plot hole had been explained/eliminated.
I have always considered T1 to be a stand alone story - there was only one terminator ever sent back and Kyle was always John's father - the timelines of T2 and subsequent movies do not exist. To me T1 was perfect - BUT T2 was so much fun and a great movie.
T2 has it's plot holes but as long as Judgement Day is only delayed, John still becomes the leader of the resistance and sends Kyle back to me it's still a closed loop with the same events happening over and over. Why do you think differently?
Well this is what happens when you have poor writing and people trying to change an already convoluted time line. Talk about the consequences of someone's actions - nobody really thought this out or they would have realized their "logic" was full of holes. They made this movie for everyone except Terminator fans and therein lies the problem.
Well, the question was asked if the writers had ever considered having Sarah look for Kyle in the present day and he responded , no because Kyle was dead and then added he had never existed. I think this probably was the mindset of everyone involved and apparently they didn't think too hard about that.
Define what unconditional basic income means to you? We do have free education right now and it's a mess. Do you mean higher education - college, trade schools? Free healthcare - nothing is ever free - who exactly pays for all of these programs? Elizabeth Warren has come out with a proposal for her healthcare program and low estimates are $20 trillion. Don't tell me billionaires and corporations - it's just not that simple.
In countries where there is government provided healthcare, people have to wait years to get certain things like a knee or hip replaced. I travel all over the world and talk to people from these countries - it's not the medical utopia you may think.
DF is about the same as as Genisys for me - I consider them both to be fan fiction. I liked a lot of what happened in Salvation, it just had some problems. It's really too bad they didn't work to improve the story and continue with that trilogy.
Completely agree with you about Stahl in T3 - totally miscast.
Did terminators only exist in the US? Was all of the human race destroyed worldwide except for a few pockets of survivors in the states or were there places where people survived the nuclear holocaust where there weren't any terminators?
I know I shouldn't bite, but I can't help it. Just what exactly should be done for this poor majority? Make them more dependent on the government for everything in their lives? How is it compassionate to tell people they can't make it w/o social programs that only encourage them to rely on someone else providing for them?
Serious question - what do you consider to be examples of something valuable?
I liked Furlong in T2. John was supposed to be 10 years old - just a kid and written that way. He had lived most of his life hanging out with shady characters and had a mother who was a criminal and considered to be mentally ill. He was street smart and a quick learner. I thought he came off as very intelligent - what indicated he wasn't? Ruthless - he would have to be psycho to be ruthless at 10. He was much more grounded than Sarah and reigned her in - no small feat. Judgement day hadn't yet happened in T2 , so expecting to see the same John before that occurred and what he turned into later is not a realistic expectation for the character, IMO.
It makes me cringe - and I'm a woman. Do most people really believe this BS or are we on a guilt trip promoted by a far left agenda?
I'm a conservative - really a closet libertarian - lol, and I have liberal friends but only a very small number of them buy into the "women are the future." crap.
They killed him off because they wanted the character completely gone and I don't think it had anything to do with Eddie's personal problems.
John's character could have been in the background story w/o us ever actually seeing him, or another actor could have play the part. I wouldn't have had any problem with that but no, CAMERON decided it was necessary for him to die just so the path was clear for Dani to become the leader. Such crap. I'm female and I'm so tired of putting women in roles "just because it's time for a woman to play this part" mentality.
If Hollywood wants more women in assertive roles, then FGS, come up with something original for them and stop messing around with existing story lines and characters.
I liked Rogue One.
I'm still shocked that none of the people involved didn't see this coming. Early on they should have paid attention to what the die hard Terminator fans were saying and realized they were going down the wrong path.
After T2 everyone was so anxious to get creative and take the story different directions and they played around with characters when they should have realized that either the story needed to end with T2 or should be continued with the future war, but no, they just kept repeating the same thing over and over with sending a terminator back. That got really old fast.
They should have pulled DF before the release, changed a few things - primarily John's death - and released it next year. If the buzz got out they were doing that, I think it would have generated a lot of excitement and they wouldn't have had this financial disaster on their hands.
Makes you wonder if the writers gave this any thought at all - and it's apparent they didn't. I find the fact that he was killed by a terminator sent by Skynet to be at best, lazy writing. It really stretches my imagination to believe that multiple terminators were sent back to pop up at different times and one of them just happened to end up in Guatemala of all places. Laughable!!! Why were John and Sarah even at that beach bar? They should have been in hiding.
So, I agree - John's death has nothing to do with the destruction of Cyberdyne. I can buy into an altered future if that is the way they wanted the story to go, but it wasn't necessary to kill him off to continue down another path.
Why is that so hard for some to realize?
LOL - I'm old enough to remember the movie when it first came out and then the TV series. It was so popular that it was on TV three nights a week. Neither one was as trashy as the book, which I bought as a teenager and had to sneak around reading so my mother wouldn't know.
I hope that isn't what Master meant. I have never understood why any classic movie has to be remade.
Only one movie that I just don't get why everyone thinks is such a masterpiece - Citizen Kane. I found it to be so boring and the only reason I watched it until the end was to find out was Rosebud was.