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About the opening scene - I have so many problems with that. Does anyone really think Sarah and John would be just hanging out at a beach bar 3 years after the end of T2 looking pretty much like themselves? No, that soon after T2, they would be in hiding and/or changed their appearances. They had blown up Cyberdyne, he was a juvie, she was a criminal who had been locked up in a mental institution. Sarah even mentions in DF that she is wanted in all 50 states and had an entire episode of America's Most Wanted about her. They would be considered international terrorists. They would never have had normal lives, even if judgement day never occurred.
So how in the hell did the terminator locate them? In T1, Kyle tells Sarah that Skynet knew very little about John's mother - the records were destroyed during the war. Nobody should have known where they were, including Skynet, so just sending multiple terminators back and one just happening to find John in Guatemala is ridiculous.
I've always had a problem with more terminators showing up in the past - even in T2.
On line shopping is not why KMart went under - they never kept up with the competition. Shopping at KMart was like going back to the 70's - the stores never changed - they looked the same as they did 40 years ago. It was a ho-hum shopping experience.
99.999% of the time I don't look for hidden, or like DF not so hidden, agendas - unless a book or movie is about a serious subject, I generally like to take things at face value and just want to be entertained. I'm not a person on a mission trying to find a deeper meaning to fiction - especially in action or sci fi movies - aren't most intended to be just fun? I wouldn't have cared about the female story line in DF if it had made sense and was a good story, but unfortunately it wasn't.
Not sure I agree with boycotting any future Cameron movies - if they are good why wouldn't I go? I guess it's up to me to determine if I think a movie is crap or not - not the critics or other people.
To make it clear - I don't like Cameron anymore - he did sell out Terminator, but if I let who I dislike off screen influence my choice in movies, then I probably wouldn't see many.
Well, we all heard the rumors about John for months and months, but I thought when it was announced at Comic Com last summer, that Eddie would be back, they suddenly woke up - no pun intended, and decided that it was a bad move to kill him and changed the story line.
Hummm - as much as I think the movie did have a political agenda, I thought that line only meant that Sarah and Grace were standing out from all of the other people and made them more of a target. But, I thought the entire border detention scene was a waste of time. And how in the hell did they know she was Sarah Connor? I can't imagine she gave them her real name and after 20+ years was she still someone they would be actively looking for? Any photos of her would be 25+ years old and I don't think they would be able to identify her through facial recognition alone.
Well some think the past, present, and future coexist, so perhaps it has already been written, but that's getting much deeper than I intended with my question.
My choice would be to know what's out there and since I'm not in a position to do anything about it, I don't see what unintended consequences could possibly occur.
I was excited as anyone at the prospect of a new Terminator movie with original actors and Cameron but now I don't think the franchise needed to go forward. 1 and 2 were as good as it's gets and less than stellar sequels have proven it's a story best told once.
This movie is fertile ground for fan fiction - most of which will be 100% better.
Agree - she did the best with what she had to work with, but the writing for her part was terrible. They totally destroyed the character and turned what I consider to be one of the very best heroes - male or female of all times - into someone I really didn't recognize, ( and I'm not talking about her age or physical appearance), who apparently kills Terminators sent from a future that never happened as a hobby. Let's see - Monday, hang out with my military buddies, Tuesday, go shopping for some new camouflage outfits, Wednesday, buy a new bazooka, Thursday - check text messages, Friday - go kill a terminator. Weekend - get drunk.
Where was the Sarah who would have been over the top intense after John's death even after 20+ years? Was it even reasonable to think she would still be alive? What did she have left to live for?
This movie was wrong on so many levels, but Sarah was what really pissed me off.
Love HBC, but she is definitely quirky - but that is what makes her fun. I usually enjoy her performances.
From T1- John's message to Sarah - "the future is not set." Cameron should have taken that into consideration when he announced at Comic Con last summer that EF would be in DF. Cheers erupted and that should have been a wake up call that something needed to be done quickly with the movie to keep John around. Right there and then he had to know there was a problem.
OMG - what would happen after a terminator completed it's mission? Well anything but becoming an interior decorator - that's what. So no, it definitely doesn't answer that question in any intelligent manner.
Amazed at Sarah - yikes. Her character was so poorly written - the biggest letdown of the movie for me. Personally, I think she would have drank herself to death early on or just outright killed herself. She really had no reason to keep on living. Even if you accept her path in DF, she should have been kooky crazy and intense, but she just seemed kind of normal - just a little too normal for the situation, IMHO.
1.T1 - it was perfect.
2. T2 - near perfect but had some plot holes.
3. T3 - #3 only because I think this was the logical progression of events if the story was to continue past T2
4. Salvation - this was headed in the right direction,with the future war - just had problems.
5. TGen - had some fun moments. Terrible ending. Stand alone story.
6. DF - hard to even rank this - total FU on so many levels.
Because IMO, the universes of T1 and T2 exist in separate time lines. I have always thought T1 is the complete story and is independent of any other movies. This is how I see it - none of the future movies exist in the timeline of T1 and T1 coexists with the timeline of T2 but the ending causes an altered future. The reason I believe it is another timeline is because there was never a satisfactory explanation for how 2 terminators were sent back in T2 - according to Kyle it shouldn't have been possible - hence a new timeline . People can speculate how that happened to try to include it in T1, but it just doesn't work for me.
So I think DF is yet another separate time line with the events of T2 included, but with a different outcome. The future was altered but has nothing to do with the past.
He looked well fed. The workers around the stadium probably take care of him.
Well regardless of what Cameron says, the other movies, good or bad, do exist and have John surviving in the futrure, so it's pretty had to erase that from our memories - not that I want to.
You are correct about #5. I have admitted the primary reason for me still wanting to see this mess is because Linda is in it.
The basis of the story is good, I just never cared for Nick Stahl and I thought the female terminator was silly.
I thought the best part was when Skynet takes over and the scenes just prior to that were great with people fooling around with all of the machines we know will become sinister .
I never cared for getting creative with John's character - like wanting him to end up as a cyborg in Salvation or bad in TGen.
Yeah, that can mess with your mind - that time is really only an illusion and past, present, and future co-exist.